[f-nsp] Extreme Networks bought MLX/VDX/SLX - what about future ?

Thu Apr 13 20:11:59 EDT 2017

But there is no successor for CER in SLX portfolio for full-table BGP
routing. In CER-RT I have 1.5M FIB IPv4, in SLX we have 256K. Minimum is 1M
today, but for next years enough is not less than 1.5M or 2M FIB. Anything
gonna to change in FIB size on 1U SLX boxes ? Second - SLX is much more
expensive than CES is - many times we don't need Nx10G.

Rob

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Wilbur Smith <wsmith at brocade.com> wrote:

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>
> As SLX-OS adopts more routing & carrier features from CES & CER, you’ll
> see a ToR SLX be positioned as an eventual replacement for the CER. This
> was planned before the Extreme acquisition, so no changes to that process
> as of now. CES/CER shares the codebase with MLX, so as long as we’re
> developing for the MLX you can expect to see those enhancements come over
> to CES/CER.
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>
> Wilbur
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> *From: *foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> Mike Allen <mkallen at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 2:52 PM
> *To: *"i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> *Cc: *Stanley Vignier via foundry-nsp <foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [f-nsp] Extreme Networks bought MLX/VDX/SLX - what about
> future ?
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> Hi guys, that is all correct, CES/CER is included as part of the MLX
> platform, and has been subject to ROHS restrictions lately. Right now BNA
> is more up in the air, it will continue to be maintained for a year but
> Brocade is keeping the BNA name long term. I would expect those functions
> to migrate to Smart Insight on the Arris side, and either BWC or Extreme's
> management platform eventually.
>
>
>
> Mike
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> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:05 PM, i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt <
> martijnschmidt at i3d.net> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> That being said, I believe the CER/CES are end of sales in Europe due to
> RoHS regulations: customs will not allow them to be imported. If I recall
> correctly they are still being sold in the rest of the world though.
>
> Best regards,
> Martijn
>
>
>
> On 12 April 2017 21:58:16 CEST, Stanley Vignier via foundry-nsp <
> foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net> wrote:
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> Robert,
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> CER/CES is part of the Engineering team that is going to go to Extreme.
> The CER/CER is part of the NetIron team as the MLXe as well.
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> V/R
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> Stan
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> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:48 PM, Robert Hass <robhass at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for update.
>
> Anyway what will happen to CER/CES products ? BNA ? As Extreme didn't
> bought CER/CES and as you wrote PM & Eng team will go to Extreme there will
> be no any development for CER/CES routers ?
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Wilbur Smith <wsmith at brocade.com> wrote:
>
> Wanted to send a quick update. Please regard my info as “unofficial”
> because Brocade hasn’t made any formal announcements, but the entire PM &
> Engineering teams for MLX, VDX, SLX, & StackStorm are slated to move over
> to Extreme. This is good news because it means Extreme will keep investing
> in these products and their roadmaps; there wouldn’t be a reason to bring
> all of the teams over (and pay their salaries) if Extreme was planning on
> sun setting these products early. Hopefully your account teams will have
> some additional details on what the transition plan is over the next few
> weeks. One challenge on sharing information is FTC rules about sharing
> information before the actual sale goes through, but as we get closer to
> the close date more info should be coming.
>
> On a side note, the Virtual SLX-OS code should be posted to MyBrocade
> soon; this is a modified version of SLX-OS we’ll be distributing for free
> to help prototype & test network design with the SLX. The code can be
> launched from any Linux KVM hypervisor, with on VM acting as the management
> module and additional VMs acting as the line cards. Version 1.0 will be
> control-plane only, so you can use it to get a feel for the CLI or test
> scripting against the supported APIs. Version 2 should launch later this
> year and will also include data-plane, so can prototype actual routing &
> switching scenarios virtually.
>
> Wilbur
>
>
> On 3/31/17, 9:49 AM, "foundry-nsp on behalf of Wilbur Smith" <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.
> nether.net <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> wsmith at brocade.com> wrote:
>
>     Hay Guys,
>
>     More info should be coming out on how this will all work, but the MLX,
> VDX, & SLX will be continued to be developed by Extreme because
> frankly…it’s better that what they currently have. The SLX is basically the
> replacement for the MLX (based on MLX & VDX code) and Extreme needs that
> box. Both VDX & MLX have large install bases that generate revenue. Anyone
> acquiring those product lies wouldn’t kill them off because they need that
> revenue to pay down any debt used to finance the purchase; it doesn’t make
> financial sense.  All those products are also part of multi-year support
> contracts with the US Government (our largest customer), so Extreme or
> Arris couldn’t walk away from the products even if they wanted to.
>
>
>
>     I know…not the answer you wanted to hear (no one in Brocade wanted to
> be purchased either), but your account teams should have more info over the
> next few weeks.
>
>
>
>     Wilbur
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>     On 3/31/17, 3:51 AM, "foundry-nsp on behalf of Jethro R Binks" <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.
> nether.net <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net> on behalf of
> jethro.binks at strath.ac.uk> wrote:
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>
>
>         It is concerning that the edge has gone one way to Arris and the
> data
>
>         centre part to Extreme.  What's going to happen to the code which
> they
>
>         have been gradually unifiying over all these years?  Is it going to
>
>         fracture again?  Or, probably unlikely, is that spun off
> separately and
>
>         will sell to both units?  Or is there an agreement for one to
> maintain it
>
>         and the other to buy it in?  Can't see how that could work.  What
> branding
>
>         will be kept?  What will happen to those relationships you've
> built up
>
>         with account managers and technical support?
>
>
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>         Uncertain times, and I can't see a happy outcome with long-standing
>
>         Brocade/Foundry corporate customers who want both edge and
> core/dist/dc
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>         equipment.
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>         Jethro.
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>         On Fri, 31 Mar 2017, Robert Hass wrote:
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>         > Hi
>
>         > Just readed that Extreme Network bought MLX/VDX and SLX products
> from
>
>         > Brocade/Broadcom:
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>         > https://urldefense.proofpoint. com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
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>         > I'm wondering what will be future for these products -
> especially as we
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>         > invested a lot of time and money to deploy them in our network.
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>         >
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>         > I don't have any experiences with Extreme. Any thoughts ?
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>         >
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>         > Rob
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>         >
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>         .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
> .  .  .
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>         Jethro R Binks, Network Manager,
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