[f-nsp] Basic SNMP MIBs missing

Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr bengelly at gmail.com
Mon Mar 13 11:10:25 EDT 2017


Frank,

I'm happy I'm not the only sharing this point of vue. I was beginning to
think I was some kind of intolerant extremist.

Well, hopefully Brocade will hear us and correct this. Maybe Wilbur can try
to relay this internally ?

I know I am pressing with my SE as much as I can.

Best regards.



2017-03-13 15:25 GMT+01:00 Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com>:

> Youssef,
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> Thanks, that’s exactly my point – the hard work of extracting the data
> from the optic has already been done, it’s just a matter of exposing it in
> right MIB of the SNMP engine.
>
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>
> Frank
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> *From:* Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr [mailto:bengelly at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 1:21 AM
> *To:* frnkblk at iname.com
> *Cc:* Wilbur Smith <wsmith at brocade.com>; foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
>
> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] Basic SNMP MIBs missing
>
>
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> Dear Frank,
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>
>
> Yes, it is. That's is why it's so frustrating !
>
>
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> Seems like someone decided it was a good idea to develop the capability
> code half way through !?!
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>
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> Best regards.
>
>
>
>
> Le 13 mars 2017 à 05:21, <frnkblk at iname.com> <frnkblk at iname.com> a écrit :
>
> Isn’t what’s being requested already available from the CLI?
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>
> Frank
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> *From:* foundry-nsp [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Wilbur Smith
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2017 1:37 PM
> *To:* Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr <bengelly at gmail.com>;
> foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [f-nsp] Basic SNMP MIBs missing
>
>
>
> Sorry you’re having issues with our MIB support. We try to support as many
> MIB OIDs as possible on as many platforms, but the reality is additional
> code needs to be written for every new OID. Optics can be specifically
> challenging because there’s no standard RFC based MIB to pull some types of
> data from the optic. I checked and this isn’t included in RFC-1213
> (MIB-II), RFC-1775 (RMON),  RFC-4133 (Entity),
>
>
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> Different optics manufacturers will also use different standards for
> passing this information; this standard also needs to also be compatible
> with the SERDES & chipset vendor’s own implementation. Sometimes supporting
> this isn’t as clear cut as we would like it to be and can take time &
> resources to build. We’re pretty good about supporting customer RFC’s
> though and we’ve added a lot of OID values to Fastiron & VDX based on
> customer requests, so we may add support for your request in a future
> release. Disclaimer: I’m not a Program Manager and can’t give you any
> insight into if/when.
>
>
>
> For VDX it does look like we support OID strings for portFault, noLight,
> etc on Fiber Channel ports (see string 1.3.6.1.4.1.1588.2.1.1.1.6.2.1.3).
> Because of the way VDX thinks of Ethernet & FC ports this OID may return
> data for an Ethernet optic…worth a try.
>
>
>
> Wilbur
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> *From:* foundry-nsp [mailto:foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> <foundry-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] *On Behalf Of *Youssef
> Bengelloun-Zahr
> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 2:26 AM
> *To:* foundry-nsp at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* [f-nsp] Basic SNMP MIBs missing
>
>
>
> Dear Community,
>
> Just wanted to share a basic / silly / simple experience I have gone
> through with our favorite $VENDOR.
>
> We use observium as an NMS for our backbone (MLXe / CERT, FCX,VDX) and I
> recently noticed lack of support for basic SNMP MIBs, in particular ones
> responsible for gathering transceivers' sensors values for FCX and VDX
> switchs.
>
> After opening cases with BTAC, I was told that it was perfectly normal (in
> 2017 !?!) because those specific MIBs were not implemented by design and
> that if I needed them, I should open up RFE requests... which I did with
> the help of my local SE :
>
> PRODRFE104332: regarding VDX implementation
> PRODRFE104333: regarding FCX implementation
>
>
> It has also made its' way on Observium's facebook page :
> https://fr-fr.facebook.com/observium/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fr-2Dfr.facebook.com_observium_&d=DwMFaQ&c=IL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&r=l86Fj-WC0GHHSCjQjuUvTzxOj0iW25AHL3VIC5Dog8o&m=NmkDsINSY69cmh7Wmt7rWUQIuizZDEShiAN3aMagP-w&s=F8o92HgaKWqbiq1otVLKuwG1cuP8DppUlUJ_giSHcvM&e=>
>
> So, if you do love your favorite $VENDOR as much as we do and consider
> that your big bucks are worth having basic SNMP support in 2017, please
> start harrassing your SEs in order for SNMP MIBs to be implemented.
>
> I hope this feedback will inspire you.
>
> Best regards.
>
>
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