I hate to add to this diatribe but................The worse LOOK comes silently with her hands on her hips! Fred W7PRV Sponsored by the City of Tempe Listserver Submissions: heath at listserv.tempe.gov Listserver Subscription: listserv at listserv.tempe.gov - "subscribe heath 'name' 'call'" Listserver Unsubscribe: listserv at listserv.tempe.gov - -"signoff heath"