someone on here hit the nail on the head . Check v-8 . on the 75s-3 rec. Replaced it and all works fine . Thank you . Marty Listserver Subscription:listserv at listserv.tempe.gov - "subscribe heath 'name' 'call'" Listserver Submissions: heath at listserv.tempe.gov Listserver Unsubscribe: listserv at listserv.tempe.gov - -"signoff heath"