Probable source of ~28.635 MHz interference
John H. Klingelhoeffer
WB4LNM at AOL.COM
Thu Jan 6 07:04:41 EST 2005
Glen:
Your interfering signal on ~28.635 MHz is probably a whole lot less sinister
than being extraterrestrial!
One of the reasons you and MANY others hear this signal is because it is
*exactly* the 8th harmonic of 3.579545 MHz, the TV color burst crystal
frequency. However, it does NOT necessarily have to come from a TV. In fact, I had
an AT&T cordless phone/answering machine several years ago that had an "S9+20"
birdie on 50.11363 MHz that I had to hunt down using a portable receiver and
the breaker box. 50.11363 ended up being the 14th harmonic of 3.579545 MHz.
After I figured out what it was coming from, I looked at other harmonics,
and sure enough, it was on 28.63636 MHz along with other frequencies. That's
also probably why you don't hear much of any modulation on it. They also
normally drift a bit in frequency due to house and unit temperature, and
naturally the multiplication of the birdie may move it around a kilohertz or so as
you have observed.
Many of the current plastic-cased, supposedly FCC compliant, unshielded
consumer appliances and toys use a TV color burst crystal for their embedded
processor clock. They are very, very cheap in large quantities, only a couple of
cents each. In the case of the AT&T phone / answering machine above, it was
mostly radiated from the line. I took a large ferrite toroid core, wrapped
about 20 turns of the DC line cord through the core snugged right up against
the back of the machine, and it dropped the signal from S9+20 to about S2 -
still detectable, but much less bothersome. I'm sure if I'd wanted to go
inside the machine and do some bypassing and shielding that I could have made it
disappear entirely, but I'm not that avid an operator on 6M.
My suggestion would be to first eliminate appliances in your house initially
as the potential source of the signal. With the gracious cooperation of
your family, pull all of the breakers for the other rooms of your house except
for the one that has your radio equipment, and of course, unplug anything in
their other than the radio and possibly the lights. If the birdie is still
there, you are going to have to go hunting down the street, but you can do it
with a clean conscience.
It's then a matter of walking around the neighborhood with a portable HF
radio, hopefully with a BFO. I have a little Sony unit that I use for exactly
that. Figure out where the signal is strongest, and then determine the
relationship with that particular neighbor to discussing that they might have a
device that is interfering with radio communications. Remember that this birdie
is every 3.579545 MHz, so in my case it was also on all kinds of commercial
and public service frequencies as well as 10 and 6 meters. How you handle
the fix is a delicate subject that the ARRL treats pretty well in their
literature. I won't go into it here.
I've been hunting down these things for many years, and there ought to be an
online database of devices known to emit stuff like this and how people "fix"
them, but I don't know of one. Seems to me like a job for a national
amateur radio organization, but I won't go there.
Happy hunting and 73. I'd be interested in hearing what device you find is
emitting this.
John...
WB4LNM
"One of the Hams from Heath (VHF/UHF Senior Design Engineer 1979-1981)"
Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>Last night I was checking a local's SSB signal on the
>10 meter band. After we got through I started tuning
>around the band and ran across a steady carrier
>located approximately at 28.635 MHz. Although there
>are numerous computer "spurs" around that frequency
>this particular signal is very different from the
>"normal" computer spurs.
>
>First of all, there is no modulation of any type on
>the carrier, not even a trace of "hum". There are
>computer spurs on almost the same frequency but the
>signal strength of those is such that an S-1 signal
>could be easily copied through the spurs. The signal
>is definitely vertically polarized. When I switch
>from a vertical antenna to my 3-element yagi at 55
>feet above ground the carrier virtually disappears in
>signal strength and the computer spurs take over the
>frequency!
>
>I have checked with "locals" and they are hearing the
>same signal again vertically polarized. I first came
>across the signal about 11:00 PM CST last night and it
>was as close to 28.635 MHz as I could read on all 3 of
>my Collins S-Line receivers and my Collins 75A4.
>Since last night the signal has drifted up in
>frequency almost 1 KHz and is now on about 28.636 MHz.
>
>Since I haven't tuned around that part of the 10 meter
>band for months I have no idea as to how long the
>signal has been on the air. But, the signal level is
>running around S-8 on receivers that have been
>calibrated for an S-9 reading of 50 microvolts.
>Because of the fact that the signal level does not
>seem to vary this source has to be local.
>
>I have heard from several people around the country
>that are hearing signals on 28.635 MHz. However, all
>of those seem to be the "usual" computer "spurs" since
>they do have some sort of modulation ("buzz", etc.).
>
>Anyway, I haven't put my 10 meter mobile in the car
>and gone looking for the source of the signal.
>However, I am looking for suggestions as to just what
>this might be. Frankly, over the years I have run
>into all sorts of signal sources. But, none as
>"clean" as this particular source.
>
>Glen, K9STH
>
>=====
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