[Heath] Results of experiment with reactivation of 572Bs in SB-200
Kenneth G. Gordon
kgordon2006 at frontier.com
Wed Aug 8 02:52:47 EDT 2012
My experiment, begun 2 years ago, in which I asked for used 572Bs has
finished, and I have discovered several things of interest.
First of all, those 572Bs which have been made in China by the Shuguang
company are very marginal even when new. Their filaments are not made at
all correctly, and have absolutely no reserve emission capability. Once they
are used up, there is absolutely no possibility of reactivating them, unlike
properly-made U.S.-made tubes.
The Chinese-made tube's plate dissipation rating is not 160 watts, as the old
Cetrons were, but is more like 125 watts per tube. Furthermore, the grids
appear to be unusually fragile, accepting no more than 30 mA grid current
per tube, whereas the original 572Bs were rated at 50 mA grid current per
tube. In fact, in the interests of longevity, I would not operate the Shuguang
tubes regularly or for very long at any grid current much above about 25 mA
per tube.
Plate current, rated at 250 mA per tube for the original Cetrons, should never
be allowed to be above 200 mA per tube with the Chinese-made versions,
for very long.
Then, tuning and loading using the Chinese-made tubes is very different
from that using an old, but reactivated set, of Cetrons I have here. This
indicates to me that the plate impedance of the Chinese-made tubes is very
different from the originals.
Lastly, even 5 minutes of operation of my SB-200 with new Chinese-made
tubes installed, at 14 WPM CW and at a power output level of 400 watts,
resulted, routinely, in glowing red plates. This continued as the tubes were
used.
I received several sets of used and pretty well used-up, Chinese-made
572Bs, through at least one member of this list, with a view to attempting any
of several different methods of reactivating them.
Any attempt to reactivate the Chinese-made "572Bs", using methods that
have always worked for me in the past with other thoriated-tungsten-
filamented tubes, resulted in complete failure of what was left of the Chinese
tubes.
I also bought, over the past two years, 4 complete pairs of new Chinese-
made 572Bs. I bought two sets directly from China, and two sets from R.F.
Parts. The R.F. Parts tubes were labled 'Taylor" but were very clearly the
same tube as those I bought directly from China.
In the two sets of tubes bought from China, one failed immediately with a
grid to filament short. Another worked OK, although it rattled when shaken.
The two sets of tubes bought from R.F. Parts worked right out of their boxes,
and none were defective. Obviously, R.F. Parts is very careful with their
tubes and tests each one before they accept it or sell it.
I have absolutely nothing to complain about concerning R.F. Parts service or
warranty.
However, ALL the new Chinese-made tubes lasted no more than 9 months
of normal to light use in my restored SB-200.
At times, they acted very oddly. In one case, suddenly going into very strong
oscillations on 15 meters and above...for a couple of months, then reverting
to acting normally after that, until they finally and rather suddenly began to
lose output and exhibit both very low grid current and low plate current at
what had been normal drive levels.
After the output from my last matched-set of "Taylors" from R.F. Parts
weakened, I then installed a pair of very old Cetrons I had here, both of
which were very weak when I got them, but after I had reactivated them, they
showed normal output with very reasonable grid drive.
I am presently using these ancient, reactivated Cetrons in my SB-200. RF
power output is routinely between 700 (80 meters) and 550 watts (20 meters)
with grid current of 30 mA per tube. If I overdrive the tubes to 50 mA per tube
grid current, I can easily reach 800+ watts output on 80 meters.
I normally run them at 30 mA per tube grid drive, and around 400 mA plate
current at 2100 VDC.
They never show red plates.
According to the Heathkit SB-200 manual, the operator should keep grid
current below 100 mA (50 mA/tube) and plate current should be no more
than 500 mA. and power input should never be more than 1KW. Obviously,
this information concerned new, U.S.-made tubes, and not these modern
Chinese-made semi-copies.
At this point, I am converting at least one of my SB-200s over to a pair of
4CX250Bs in a grid-driven, grid-swamped, Class AB1 configuration, with
regulated screen and grid voltages. I will use a 25 ohm 10 watt un-bypassed
cathode resistor at each tube to improve IMD.
These tubes will finally allow me to follow Heathkit's recommendations as far
as using the SB-200 is concerned.
I MAY attempt to buy used, flat or semi-flat, worn out, U.S. made 572Bs such
as Cetrons, Dentrons, etc., with a view to reactivating those and using them
in my other SB-200, but I doubt if I will ever buy another Chinese-made so-
called "572B" unless someone can assure me that they have been
redesigned and built correctly, or if I can buy new ones for no more than
$10.00 each.
vy 73,
Ken W7EKB
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