[Heath] An interesting view of modern tube manufacturing
Kenneth G. Gordon
kgordon2006 at frontier.com
Thu Aug 9 12:50:14 EDT 2012
This, below, was sent to me by a close friend. I find it very interesting and
much of this supports my contentions concerning "new" tubes.
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Jim Cross is one of the larger tube merchants: he does know the
subject well.
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I have given this talk to customers so many times, I have it
memorized. So, here is my take on NOS versus new manufacture......
When I talk about such things, I usually use the 12AX7 as an example,
since it is a common, well known type with several well known variants
(long plate, short plate, pinched plate, black plate , gray plate,
etc.) that are all electrically equivalent.
There are three factors that determine the way a tube performs:
Geometry, Materials, and Processing.
Geometry is just like it sounds. That is, the configuration of the
tube's elements. In the world of 12AX7s, Tungsram made a copy of the
respected Telefunken smooth plate 12AX7, but it does not perform like
a Telefunken. Geometry is the easiest thing for a modern maker to
copy, but geometry alone does not make a tube perform the way it should.
Materials include things like plate alloys, grid alloys, and cathode
coatings. Along with those choices is the thickness of the coatings or
the gages of the metal parts and wires. Another aspect of "materials"
is the purity or quality. For example, in the old days, makers used
99.9999% ("Four 9's") nickel for some tube plates. I do not know
exactly how the modern tubes vary in materials, but the easiest
demonstration that they are not made out of the same stuff is simply
to look at the shiny pins of the modern Russian and Chinese miniature
tubes. I do not know what material they are made from, but I do know
it is not the same nickel/iron of old stock tubes. A place where this
most makes a difference in performance is the selection of grid
alloys, which need to be small enough in diameter not to impede
electron flow, stiff enough not to sag or "ring", and also
non-emissive.
Processing or treatment includes how the parts are washed and degassed
before assembly, how long or to what level of vacuum the tubes are
pumped, and whether the tubes are aged before sale.
I have two negative stories about processing... ONe, from Eric Barbour is
about Svetlana. Svetlana would get complaints about EL34s because
Svetlana would shorten the needed pumping time to get a greater throughput
of tubes. If the tubes did not get a hard vacuum, they could experience
screen "runaway". Another story is about a British film crew who went
on a tour of Shuguang several years ago and noted they were using tap
water to wash tube parts. Tap water has dissolved-solids that will
leave leakage paths when it dries. Apparently, Shuguang has since
changed to distilled water....
So, the modern tubes simply are not the equal of old stock. I suspect
it is possible for a modern maker to make a tube to be "better" than
an old stock tube, but it would cost money. Since the public pretty
much buys all they can make already, there is not much incentive to
improve..
Anyway, that's my take.
Jim Cross
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I find this to be very interesting, and I hope some of you do too.
I will repeat for emphasis: I have found that the Chinese-made "572Bs"
filaments are crap, the tubes themselves are not pumped down to hard
enough vacuums, their grids are fragile and not made from proper materials,
and the tubes themselves are NOT "...exact copies of original U.S.-made
572Bs..." despite advertising to the contrary.
Unfortunately, they are all we have available at the moment.
If they are used very carefully, at reduced output and input, they will last a
"reasonable" length of time.
Ken W7EKB
Ken Gordon W7EKB
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