[iptv-users] JDSU tester

Adam Palmblad adam.palmblad at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 03:00:29 EDT 2010


Well... Agama EMP makes all your STBs to a "tester" which more or less
makes standalone testers obsolete.

//Adam



2010/8/24 Frank Bulk - iName.com <frnkblk at iname.com>:
> Wouldn’t the tester be able to figure out packet discontinuities and
> re-ordering, without the STB’s help?
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> In terms of STB and network bugs, it would be nice to have some better
> transparency.  Our DSLAM vendor, Calix, has a pretty nice Subscriber tab
> that shows all the multicast channels and IGMP requests that the STBs
> attached to the port have made.  It would be nice to have a log of each IGMP
> message, and when the requested multicast stream does go, but it meets most
> of our needs today.
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> Frank
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> From: Adam Palmblad [mailto:adam.palmblad at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:28 AM
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> To: frnkblk at iname.com
> Cc: Glenn Short; iptv-users at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [iptv-users] JDSU tester
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> It's possible to define what you want the probe to trigger on but it also
> depends on how capable the STB is. The main feature(if you ask me) is
> packet discontinuities and re-ordering(IP and MPEG) which is crucial when
> you looking for network problems. We have build an automatic system that
> sorts boxes correlated on network location and time to discover sources of
> error, saves A LOT of time. Besides we can fix errors before the costumers
> calls...
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> But thinks like CPU load, memory usage, channel usage, temperature, HDD
> space and so on is also possible to get continuously.
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> We like it a lot, I have found a lot of strange STB and network bugs with
> it. IE you see that one costumer changes channel meanwhile that channel
> stops on other STBs and voilá you pin pointed a possible
> IGMP misconfiguration or bug.
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> //Adam
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> 2010/8/19 Frank Bulk - iName.com <frnkblk at iname.com>
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> Thanks.  What kind of information does the STB send back?
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> Frank
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> From: Adam Palmblad [mailto:adam.palmblad at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:43 AM
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> To: frnkblk at iname.com
> Cc: Glenn Short; iptv-users at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [iptv-users] JDSU tester
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> Check the partner page on there site (agama.tv), we use Motorola and Amino
> boxes which we paid the integration of. According to there technicians they
> can integrate to everything(not only STBs), I know a case when they couldn't
> but that was due to legal issues with the STB vendor.
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> //Adam
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> 2010/8/19 Frank Bulk - iName.com <frnkblk at iname.com>
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> If you can’t look inside the video stream because of encryption issues then
> that will help direct you to an appropriate tool.  No use paying for all the
> L7 stuff if you only have L3/4 to work with.
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> Which STBs does it integrate with?  I’m highly suspect of vendor claims in
> this area, because the chance that one’s environment matches up such that
> you can actually take advantage of it is slim.
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> Frank
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> From: Adam Palmblad [mailto:adam.palmblad at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:37 AM
> To: frnkblk at iname.com
> Cc: Glenn Short; iptv-users at puck.nether.net
>
> Subject: Re: [iptv-users] JDSU tester
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> Afaik there's no encryption that ruins the whole IP packet so IP information
> can always be analyzed(i.e packet loss and reordering), which I see as the
> most important part if you also monitor the distribution before the IP
> network.But Agama support DVB encryption and can analyze streams with that,
> I think that they have support for some non dvb encryptions as well.
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> They also have STB integrations which makes it possible for STBs
> to continuous send back quality data, it's really great. Depending on STB
> this can be done after the stream is encrypted.
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> //Adam
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> 2010/8/18 Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com>
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> How does it deal with encrypted content?
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> We’ve budgeted for equipment the last few years, but never purchased.  A
> large part of the reason is that the problem is very, very infrequently the
> video stream, but most often the last mile.  And we can know that by looking
> at the DSLAM port stats, for free.
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> Frank
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> From: iptv-users-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:iptv-users-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Short
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:16 PM
> To: iptv-users at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [iptv-users] JDSU tester
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> I had a salesman demo a JDSU  TB4000T tester with the C4000-IPTV software in
> it .  This would be used for testing our digital signal and troubleshooting
> issues. Has anyone on the list tried this unit?   It has the Wireshark
> program and allows you to view the video on its screen.  Looking for
> recommendations or alternatives to this unit.
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> Lost Nation, Iowa
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