Anyone got Visio stencils for the original M40 lying around or perhaps somewhere else on the Juniper site...? Nice that it got EOL'ed and all, but it would be nice if we could at least still include them in a network diagram ;-) Cheers, -- --- Erik Haagsman Network Architect We Dare BV tel: +31(0)10 750 7008 fax: +31(0)10 750 7005 http://www.we-dare.nl