[j-nsp] Juniper M7i and M10i equivalents from Cisco andFoundry worlds

dmitri at nominet.org.uk dmitri at nominet.org.uk
Mon Jun 26 09:32:44 EDT 2006


I'll give some clarifacation on intended use for M7i/M10i or equivalents.
M7i's are planned to be installed on remote sites and will have one 100Mb 
or 1Gb interface facing ISP and several directly connected servers behind 
several 100Mb interfaces.
It will have a default route and probably running OSPF to provide simple 
load sharing to servers behind it. It will have short, 10-20, 
incoming/outgoing firewall policies on ISP facing interface. It will also 
run BGP but not with full routing table. The average traffic will be 1-10 
Mbs. Even for this M7i seems like an overkill although we need at least 
power supply resilience.
M10i is planned to have two separate 1Gb switched connections to a transit 
provider and BGP peering ring and 2-4 100Mb connections facing internal 
network. It will run BGP with the transit provider, peers and iBGP 
routers, OSPF and likely IPsec for site to site encryption.On average it 
will have 1-10 Mbs  but in worst case it should be able to sustain up to 
1Gb.

Price is not much of an issue, although considered.
In light of above mentioned details is my original table of equivalents 
still a close match?

Regards
Dmitri

"Scott Morris" <swm at emanon.com> wrote on 26/06/2006 13:24:19:

> With either of them.  When you start looking at things here, you need to
> consider the hardware pieces that make up each platform.  What are the
> differences between the M7i and M10i as an example?  (Other than the 
obvious
> number of PICs supported)
> 
> The same holds true on the Cisco side (I don't have enough experience 
with
> Foundry to add that in).  If you have an identical CPU, memory and IOS
> image, what are you comparing?
> 
> You're also looking at very generic lists here.  The answers may also 
vary
> based on "how much" of "what specific stuff" you're trying to do.  But
> generally speaking, I'd agree with the list supplied below.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> dmitri at nominet.org.uk
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:40 AM
> To: John Lyons
> Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper M7i and M10i equivalents from Cisco 
andFoundry
> worlds
> 
> Thank you, John. Would you put 720x against M7i or M10i?
> 
> Regards
> Dmitri
> 
> juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote on 26/06/2006 11:53:22:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 11:22:30AM +0100, dmitri at nominet.org.uk wrote:
> > > I have a task of enhancing natural diversity in our network. As part
> of 
> > > this task I need to find best matches for M7i and M10i from Foundry
> and 
> > > Cisco product lines in regard of feature set/expansibility. After
> looking 
> > > at the manufacturers web sites I have a preliminary table of
> equivalents:
> > > 
> > > Juniper         Foundry              Cisco
> > > M7i             XMR 4000                7301
> > > M10i            XMR 4000                7304/7603
> > 
> > Hi Dmitri,
> > 
> > Under the Cisco column I'd also include the 720x VXR with NPEG1 or 
> > NPEG2
> 
> > processing engines. I'd also be inclined to put the 7603 against the 
> > M7i
> 
> > as well, depending on your requirements. 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > John
> > 
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