[j-nsp] Router selection, Juniper intro

[Charles Sprickman]

On Dec 11, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Peter E. Fry wrote:

> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Router selection, Juniper intro
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:45:32 -0500 (EST)
>
>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Ben Steele wrote:
>>
>>> For 15k get yourself an NPE-G2, it's not worth moving
>>> platforms and your already invested 7200 modules [...]
>
>> I am leaning heavily towards used Juniper...  I might also
>> add that I  absolutely hate QoS stuff in IOS.  Most of it
>> I simply cannot wrap my head  around and then if I can I
>> more often than not find that it's not  supported on
>> whatever interface I'm needing it on.
>
>  Junipers are a bit exciting that way, too.

Well, Juniper was started by ex-cisco folks, right? :)

>
> [...]
>> Thanks for the input though, the NPE-Gx option is still on
>> the table.
>
>  I have to agree with Ben, here.  The bottom line is "$15k"
> -- I doubt you could get into an M series chassis with the
> PICs you'd need, and the J series does not have the
> interface selection (although the J6350 should outperform
> the NPE-G2).

I do have a few folks from this list offering equipment, and the  
pricing so far
looks pretty good - well within my budget even if I have to buy a few  
GigE PICs.

One worry about the G1/G2 route is that I will be sticking it in a  
chassis that
is probably at least 10 years old - ditto on most of the PAs.  The  
thing is probably
a ticking time bomb at this point.

>  Juniper maintenance is definitely not geared
> to support the gray market, so while you could probably
> cobble together some hardware, getting it completely set up
> might be tough.

Can anyone give me a rough idea on what software-only support plans  
cost?  Even
just a ballpark - $1K/year, $4K/year???


>  And I wouldn't try to mangle your plan to
> fit a J series until you look closely at QoS on that
> chassis, if QoS is a concern.
>  Naturally, if you could justify the budget you could do a
> lot worse than an M series.

I have for quite some time. :)

>
>  I have to disagree with Ben about the NPE-300, though --
> for the price of one of those you might be able to buy
> yourself a really nice sandwich.

Yeah.  I would keep the thing and probably relegate it to DSL agg.  
until I figure
out the JunOS some more and then I'd move it to our office to replace  
a 3640 that's
having trouble pushing more than 35Mb/s.

Thanks again though for all the input, and all the offlist offers.  I  
really appreciate it.

Charles

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