[j-nsp] Upgrade from M10i?

Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom nuno.vieira at nfsi.pt
Thu Feb 5 14:03:42 EST 2009


we had a very similar problem (10GE and stuff) and we went to Foundry Networks XMR (now Brocade), and we are very happy.

cheers,
---
Nuno Vieira
nfsi telecom, lda.

nuno.vieira at nfsi.pt
Tel. (+351) 21 949 2300 - Fax (+351) 21 949 2301
http://www.nfsi.pt/



----- "raymondh (NSP)" <raymondh.nsp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Phil / Mark,
> 
> Based on your requirement for 4 x 10G and 8 x 1G in a box, M120 or  
> M320 are too expensive for purchasing it and the maintenance cost.
> 
> For the M120, you'll need to buy at least 3 FEBs (without any  
> redundancy), each FEB supports up to 20G nonetheless per unit cost of 
> 
> the 10GE PIC w/ FPC or the cFPC for 10G are expensive. For more  
> information, you can check the hardware guide on Juniper's site or  
> with your local vendor or Juniper's SE / AM.
> 
> If you're going for pure ethernet I'd suggest that you go for the MX 
> 
> w/ the GE and 10G DPCE for Juniper solution or the Cisco 7600 w/ the 
> 
> SIP-600+SPA or ES-20 LCs or others. (As an example). If you do have  
> the intention to run non-ethernet interfaces, the MX-FPC2/FPC3 w/ the 
> 
> PICs will be cost factor which you may want to take into consideration
>  
> against other boxes or vendor(s)' solutions.
> 
> Cheers, thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> --raymondh
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:33 AM, Phil Palanchi wrote:
> 
> > We're in the same 10G boat as Ken and Mark so I'm really  
> > appreciating all
> > the contributions to this thread!  Actually have a meeting next week
>  
> > with
> > our Juniper account to discuss 10G platforms so this topic is very 
> 
> > timely.
> >
> > We have 3 m10i's in our extranet with a couple of OC12 PICs, AS- 
> > PICs. IPv4/
> > someday IPv6, Multicast.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Phil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of ken
> lindahl
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:17 AM
> > To: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Upgrade from M10i?
> >
> > On 2/3/2009 6:30 AM, Mark Johnson wrote:
> >> We need at least 4 x 10G ports and 8 x 1G ports, IPv4/IPv6,
> >> OSPFv2/OSPFv3, full BGP (peering/transit), no MPLS and that's about
>  
> >> it.
> >>
> >> While I love Junipers I would consider Cisco so if anyone might
> >> suggest suitable Cisco models I'd also appreciate that.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Mark
> >
> > i'm have approximately the same requirements as Mark and considering
>  
> > the
> > MX480 vs M120 choice, so i very much appreciate the comments folks 
> 
> > have made
> > about the MX series. we have an M120 and are happy with it, but  
> > there is a
> > substantial price difference between the MX480 and M120, and we have
>  
> > no need
> > for non-ethernet interfaces.
> >
> > Mark did not mention multicast explicitly; we need this router to
> do
> > IPv4/IPv6 multicast. has anyone got any experience with multicast on
>  
> > the MX
> > series?
> >
> > thanks,
> > ken
> >
> > p.s.: it's worth noting that adding "tunnel PIC capability" to an  
> > MX, in
> > order to have it act as an RP, uses a full slot in the chassis.
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