[j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

Mark Tinka mtinka at globaltransit.net
Wed Dec 29 16:31:13 EST 2010

On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:26:15 pm Julien Goodwin 

> And Cisco aren't *worse* at this? Look at the supported
> platforms for VPLS for example. I can run VPLS on an M40
> if I had one (yes, with a tunnel PIC, or specific other
> PIC's).

I likely wouldn't consider VPLS a basic feature. I would, 
however, expect EoMPLS to be a basic feature in fairly 
modern platform. To each his own?

My issue isn't on the kinky bits. It's more on the basic 
bits, e.g., plain tunneling, Multicast encapsulation, H-QoS 
on high-end line cards, e.t.c.

> I'm not so sure about that. If you're ethernet only,
> *and* you need more interfaces then an ASR1002 then the
> MX80 is a nice combo, but yes an even smaller
> ethernet-only platform would still be great, although I
> doubt Juniper will launch one as it would likely just
> cannibalise sales of the MX80 (Something with just the
> interfaces from an SRX1400-10G would be awesome).

If you're looking at a small router to solve many of your 
problems, it's not unreasonable to assume that you'll be 
considering TDM/SDH/SONET ports to that end as well, 
probably because WAN-based Ethernet isn't available in your 
area, or that these low-speed serial/POS ports are cheaper 
than FE, Gig-E or 10-Gig-E.

As for a smaller version of the MX80; to be honest, I 
initially thought the MX80 would have been a 1U box, with 
the capabilities of the MX-series but being able to take on, 
say, Cisco's ME3600X/3800X platform. I must say, Juniper 
missed the mark there - so as an Access platform, the MX80 
is simply too costly.

That said, the MX80 has a number of use-cases, and we're 
getting some of them to deploy in production. But as a 
Metro-E Access box, it simply loses out.


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