[j-nsp] JUNOS and MX Trio cards

[Richard A Steenbergen]

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:50:49PM -0700, Derick Winkworth wrote:
> So basically, this stalled route issue has been going on for so long, 
> that its truthful to say that Juniper probably doesn't think its 
> important to fix?  or they don't care?

6 years by my count. The weird thing is I'm constantly running into 
plenty of really smart competent people at Juniper who do want to help, 
they just have no idea that things are really this broken, or they 
aren't empowered to do anything about it. I guess you could call that 
"they don't care" at a corporate level.

Oh and btw, they also broke subinterface counters in 10.2R1 too:

IF-MIB::ifDescr.539 = STRING: xe-1/0/1
IF-MIB::ifDescr.583 = STRING: xe-1/0/1.0

IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.539 = Counter64: 3917358216
IF-MIB::ifHCInOctets.583 = Counter64: 0

IF-MIB::ifHCOutOctets.539 = Counter64: 20928565080777
IF-MIB::ifHCOutOctets.583 = Counter64: 8643351

The really scary part is I can name a lot of big networks who are 
critically under-provisioned right now, because they've been holding off 
on new DPC purchases for their MX's pending shipment of Trio cards. I 
think Juniper is about to find themselves in a world of hurt when these 
guys go to deploy the new cards and discover what a disaster modern 
JUNOS has become. Seriously, how the hell do you manage to ship 
production code that has broken subinterface counters? Does anyone in 
systest actually do anything any more?

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