[j-nsp] CoS Marking/Rewrite Theory - Update!

[Chris Evans]

I think you nailed it.. Juniper still thinks that service providers are
their only customers. They're bringing out enterprise level devices but not
bringing all the features that enterprise companies need.. They're 6 to
12months behind Cisco, anytime they bring out a new box that has a cool
feature, which still doesn't have all the base features of my older Cisco
boxes, they get trumped as Cisco has their next gen platforms out.. Right
now the Nexus platforms are the devices to beat for data center usage.

We are a huge Cisco shop (30K+ devices) and I work with Juniper every day to
help them get a clue. I ask for features, but get blown off.. I guess they
don't want in our network bad enough..  I like their devices, I think more
for the fact that they do have a large presence in the service provider
market and it surely helps my resume, but at the end of the day Cisco is the
safer choice for us.



On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Michel de Nostredame <d.nostra at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Chris Evans <chrisccnpspam2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I asked for this years ago but was blown off.  Basically got the 'that is
> > the way it is' statement.  As stated the current implementation is very
> > limiting.
> >
> > Cisco has had this feature since I can remember on all of their
> platforms.
>
> As for a CE or PE, Cisco is much better in terms of QoS
> marking/classification capability. It could marks dscp or ipp bit on
> the ingress based on various matching-conditions (such as src-dst
> ip/port, and others). It also able to change the bit on the egress.
>
> I had some complex examples during the transition from Cisco CE to
> Juniper CE years ago, that support engineers from Juniper SI could not
> able to translate them well. And the most frustrated thing is the JTAC
> even not able to get back to us correctly.
>
> Maybe Juniper can do something on the J-series to bring packet mode
> software back, and add the marking capability on the ingress
> interface's firewall filter... maybe I am just dreaming.... I wonder
> if Juniper ever took opinions from enterprise customers seriously.
>
> Michel~
>
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