[j-nsp] MX5-T-DC vs MX80-5G-DC-B

[magno]

Hi all,

   these codes are basically the same, both are MX80 based devices with a
MIC 1x20GE (all mics are commercially called 3D, no difference here)
already installed in one of the two available slots. On MX5 (and in the
commercial bundle MX80-5) the 20x1G MIC is the only card available to
connect the MX to the network, as the on board 10GE ports are software
restricted and not configurable.

So, the two differences are:

1) the MX5 is a chassis which is phisically grey and you can read MX5 on
the front panel, whereas MX80-5-DC-B is a commercial bundle based on a MX80
chassis; the commercial bundle was needed to have a faster go to market
time schedule, that's it; of course, MX5 chassis (and MX10 & MX40) are
exactly an MX80, just the color and the label on the front panel change;
2) the "T" versions (all the T versions, MX5, 10,40 and also MX80-T)
supports Sync-E according with G.8261 / G.8262 standards;

1) is just commercial, whereas 2) is a technical difference.

Both models are field upgradable to MX10, MX40 and MX80 using the same
licensing scheme. If you need MX5 now, my advice is to go with the bundle
as the real MX5 will ship end of this year (11.2R4/11.4R1 time frame).

Hope this helps!

Magno.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Paul Stewart <paul at paulstewart.org> wrote:

> There are bundles and then there are "base units".  The bundles typically
> include the MIC-3D-20GE-SFP - there were no MIC's that I'm aware of that
> weren't 3D ... definitely not on the MX80 platform.  Yes, MX5 is
> modular....
> it's physically the same as an MX80 box, just with software based
> restrictions in place (which unless it's changed are honor system based
> still) as noted by "4x10G fixed ports and 1x front empty MIC slot
> restricted" .. restricted = not usable without software upgrade.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Wormington
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:22 PM
> To: sthaug at nethelp.no
> Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX5-T-DC vs MX80-5G-DC-B
>
> I agree the specs look to be the same, the only difference I can see is the
> MX5 says it includes a MIC-3D-20GE-SFP and the MX80 a 20x1G MIC.
> Did they make a MIC that wasn't 3D?
>
> I'm pretty sure the MX5 is modular as well since it has the open MIC slot
> that you can get an upgrade license to be able to use.
>
> On 11/18/2011 01:37 PM, sthaug at nethelp.no wrote:
> >> The T version is copper only. The DC version is modular.
> >
> > Certain about this? In my price list (from August), these bundles are
> > listed with exactly the same price.
> >
> > MX80-5G-DC-B:
> > MX80 Promotional 5G Bundle, Includes MX80 Modular DC, spare DC Power
> > supply, 20x1G MIC including L3-ADV license, Queuing, Inline Jflow,
> > Junos WW. (4x10G fixed ports and 1x front empty MIC slot restricted)
> >
> >
> > MX5-T-DC:
> > MX5 DC chassis with timing support - includes dual power supplies,
> > MIC-3D-20GE-SFP, Junos, S-MX80-ADV-R, S-MX80-Q&  S-ACCT-JFLOW-IN-5G
> > licenses. Power-supply cable to be ordered separately
> >
> > Sure looks to me like the specifications are the same too.
> >
> > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Kevin Wormington wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking at the above two MX bundles and other than timing support on
> the MX5 they seem to have the same specs.  Is there something that I'm
> missing?  Does anyone on the list know why one might want the MX80-5G-DC-B
> vs the MX5-T-DC?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Kevin
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