[j-nsp] switch idea.?

[Mike Devlin]

Thanks for your Response Michael, i guess i should have provided a little
more information.

We are looking to get rid of spanning-tree in as many places as possible,
and we were originally looking at fabric solutions.  They just seem like
overkill for our traffic requirements.  We are looking to separate RVI/SVI
into a few VRF instances as well.  The implementation of a collapsed P/PE
device is to follow very shortly afterwards.  Both technologies seem to
offer these abilities (and if we can fit everything into a single VChassis
or IRF instance, no STP at all, from how i understand them).

Given these requirements, we were able to eliminate certain vendors since
they just werent able to offer what we need.  Im slightly worried about HP
as well, given that they have gone through 3 different OS's in the past few
years, and none of them are they same as the others.  Little frustrating if
you ask me.

But that alone isnt a deal breaker.

Again, thanks Michael.

If anyone else has touched these platforms i would love to hear more.

Mike

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Michael Loftis <mloftis at wgops.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mike Devlin <juniper at meeksnet.ca> wrote:
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>> Its ironic this thread has started, since my company is in the process of
>> replacing the core infrastructure, and we have it narrowed down to HP IRF
>> on 5900 and 5800 platform vs Juniper EX4550 and EX4200 VChassis.
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>> I was considering asking the list about any experiences they have had
>> comparing the 2 platforms.
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> The biggest thing I miss over Cisco is VTP.  Managing VLAN's is a huge
> pain without it when you've got dozens of switches that all need the same
> VLAN config. The pros on both HP and Juniper though tend to outweigh Cisco
> anymore.  HP was (is?) giving lifetime software updates, and the out the
> door prices are better than Cisco or Juniper.  When deploying a HP 5406 ZL
> some years back at a previous job I was having some pretty painful issues
> with 802.1x that they were able to debug with engineers and get us a
> non-released build with fixes. HP Procurve Tech support was pretty
> responsive at the time for those units, but that has been quite a few years
> ago now, though from what I've heard they're still pretty on the ball.
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> At my current day job we just turned up the first EX4500 (the 4550 wasn't
> available in our timeframe since they'd JUST started shipping at the time)
> and so far so good.  We're not using the VC and might not end up using it,
> but it's nice to have if we decide to go that route/need to.  So don't
> really have much experience with those yet.  Majority of the switches at
> the current day job are PowerConnect 6248's - they mostly work pretty well
> as a plain switch, we're not doing L3 on them at all.
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> I have a series of 3rd party test results related to both technologies that
>> ive been reviewing, but that can only give me so much info.  1st hand
>> experience is really what im looking to hear about here.
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>> Does anyone have any experience with both technologies they wouldnt mind
>> sharing with the group?
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>> Thanks,
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>> Mike
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>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
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>> > If you want to stick with Juniper, maybe check out the EX4500.
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>> > If you're looking for inexpensive, maybe check out the Arista 7100s or
>> > Accton's offerings.
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>> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:48 AM, hasan alperen selçuk <
>> > h.a.selcuk at hotmail.com
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>> > > Hi all,
>> > > We will change our Back Bone switch and i need some advice.
>> > > our topology
>> > > http://b1212.hizliresim.com/14/6/gml93.png
>> > > we need min. 4x10g fiber and min 1x1g fiber port (should be 12x1g sfp)
>> > > any idea?
>> > > thanks
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>> > > H.Alperen SELÇUK
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