[j-nsp] Juniper MX104

[Eric Van Tol]

One thing to keep in mind about these boxes is that, like the MX5/10/40/80, the built-in 10G ports do not do hierarchical QoS (per-unit scheduling).  I'm confused as to why this is, considering they are Trio-based routers, but I digress.  I personally don't think that the astronomical cost to enable the 10G ports on all the low-end MX routers is worth it, considering they can't even do per-unit scheduling.

-evt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> joel jaeggli
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:00 PM
> To: Saku Ytti
> Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX104
> 
> 
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Saku Ytti <saku at ytti.fi> wrote:
> 
> > On (2013-11-12 20:14 +0000), Tom Storey wrote:
> >
> >> Why so much just to enable some ports? How do they come up with that
> >> kind of price? Pluck it out of thin air?
> >>
> >> The hardware has been paid for, and I know thats only list pricing,
> >> but it still seems ridiculous.
> >
> > The question might have been rhetoric. But I'll bite.
> >
> > The BOM on these boxes is nothing, I'm guessing less than 1kUSD. But the
> > volume you can sell them also is very very small, so the margins need to
> be
> > very high to be able to design and support them.
> > Licensing allows you to sell to larger group of people, people who
> normally
> > would buy smaller/inferior box, now can afford it,  which in turn allows
> you
> > to reduce your margins, making you more competitive.
> >
> > I actually like it. I wish vendors like Agilent/Ixia, Spirent would sell
> > test-kit with some sort of 'per hours used' license. Lot of SPs have need
> for
> > proper testing kit, but only will need them very irregularly. And renting
> is
> > always such a chore. It's same thing there, BOM is nothing, but volume is
> even
> > lower, so prices are ridiculously high, consequently proper testing is
> very
> > rarely done by other than telco size SPs.
> 
> It's one of those things where you work with account team. if the commercial
> terms don't work out for most potential buyers, then the product won't be
> successful and either things will change or they won't.
> 
> > --
> >  ++ytti
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