[j-nsp] Practice lab environments, any suggestions?

[Tyler Christiansen]

You would have to compete with Junosphere and iNetZero.  Junosphere is
virtualized, on-demand so has some pretty big draw (for me at least)
because I don't need to worry about scheduling with regards to other
people.  There's a lot of overhead in rolling your own service (creating a
scheduling system, automatic rollback of configs at X time, creating the
website, getting your name out there, etc).  Otherwise, if you could
compete with price/features of Junosphere and iNetZero (I'm not aware of
any other major virtual lab providers that don't inherently have a VAS
[Proteus used to offer a remote proctored IE mock lab, for example]), I
don't see why not.

--tc


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Dovid B <dovid at telecurve.com> wrote:

> I don't mean to hijack the thread but what is the market like for lab
> rentals? I thought about starting such a service and giving a /24 to "play
> with".
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Tyler Christiansen <tyler at adap.tv> wrote:
>
>> It also depends on what certifications you're going for.  Also need to
>> keep
>> in mind that EX2200 and EX3200, while capable of virtual chassis, do not
>> have dedicated virtual chassis ports.  None of those devices will let you
>> do some of the switching features necessary for SP exams, and the J2300
>> and
>> J4300 are end of sale.  I haven't used the J series, but if they require a
>> different Junos image than the J4350 or J2320, it may be difficult to find
>> a new(er) Junos image.
>>
>> I would honestly just buy a few EX4200s and use Junos Firefly (or whatever
>> it's called now) for the routing.  If you can afford it, Junosphere is
>> excellent.  Not that it's expensive, but it does cost money, and if you
>> don't use it for a significant portion of the day, it can be a "waste" of
>> money.  Junosphere is due for v4 soon (there used to be a notice about
>> potential downtime while systems are upgraded to support it--or something
>> to that effect).
>>
>> --tc
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Scott Granados <scott at granados-llc.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This actually looks interesting, thanks for the pointer.
>> >
>> > On Sep 4, 2014, at 12:11 PM, ryanL <ryan.landry at gmail.com<mailto:
>> > ryan.landry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > something like this might be overkill, but might save you a lot of money
>> > on rack rentals if you plan on spending loads of time on this.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUST-SEE-1OFAKIND-JUNIPER-JNCIE-JNCIS-JNCIA-CCIE-CCNP-COUNTERPART-CISCO-LAB-/141393100611?pt=US_Wired_Routers&hash=item20ebaf7f43
>> >
>> > (not my listing, just an example, buyer beware, etc etc)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Scott Granados <scott at granados-llc.net
>> > <mailto:scott at granados-llc.net>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I’m starting down the path of certifications and wondering what people
>> use
>> > for practice labs in terms of hardware?   I did some googling but have
>> > mostly found rack rental services.  Is this the primary method?  Is
>> there
>> > anyone putting together bundles for sale of used equipment like you
>> might
>> > find for Cisco hardware?  If not what hardware do people suggest for a
>> home
>> > lab that’s reasonably cost effective.  Any suggestions would be most
>> > appreciated.  Any pointers to pre made kits or other solutions would
>> also
>> > be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >
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