[j-nsp] EX4600 Vs QFX 5100 VS ACX 5048

Colton Conor colton.conor at gmail.com
Sat Apr 30 11:07:06 EDT 2016


Mark,

I looked at Brocade as well, but on their carrier ethernet page they only
list the CES which has max 4 10G ports. The only thing that has more than 4
10G ports and is MEF certified seems to be their larger MLXe routers. Those
are more built for core than metro access.


On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote:

>
>
> On 30/Apr/16 02:24, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> So the Cisco 5001 is the direct competitor to the Juniper ACX5048. Both
> seem to be based off the Broadcom Trident II.  Mark can you give me more
> details on the reasons why the Broadcom based offerings are such a bad
> option?
>
>
> I'm not saying the Broadcom chip is bad, I'm saying that if you are used
> to having a ton of features easily available and accessible on the MX Trio,
> you might be in for a shock on the Broadcom chip. We dumped the ACX because
> the chip could not do certain things we felt were important to us, and the
> ASR920 could (for more than half the price anyway). I know Aaron has been
> struggling with VLAN mapping on the ACX this last week. Although I'm not
> sure if that is related to the Broadcom chip, such capability is
> straightforward on the Trio chips.
>
>
> I know you like the ASR920, but 4 10G ports is not enough.
>
>
> True, but looking at the cost and features of the ASR920, and the value it
> gives us when running IP/MPLS services in the Access, it's cheaper for me
> to run dedicated dark fibre to a larger PoP for 10Gbps requirements in some
> places, or deploy DWDM pizza boxes alongside my ASR920's in others.
>
> For us, feature parity across all vendor equipment regardless of function,
> size or location is much more important than anything else.
>
> When the vendors figure out how to deliver cheap 10Gbps ports on custom
> chips in a 1U chassis, I'll be the first one to buy.
>
>
>
> Besides Cisco and Juniper solutions discussed, what else is out there that
> has more than 4 10G ports with these feature sets?
>
>
> Look at Brocade.
>
> I'm not sure what they are doing now, but back then, they had a solid 1U
> Metro-E box. We never bought it because we wanted to keep two vendors only
> in our network. Technically, the box was/is sound. But I'd definitely buy
> them for some specific use cases we are working on.
>
> Mark.
>


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