[j-nsp] juniper router reccomendations

[Anhost]

Those boxes have no fabric to connect to which makes it appear to double the bw. The onboard 10G ports are the connections that would otherwise go to the scb's. 

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On Jul 28, 2016, at 4:21 PM, Adam Vitkovsky <Adam.Vitkovsky at gamma.co.uk> wrote:

>> Mike [mailto:mike+jnsp at willitsonline.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:09 PM
>> To: Adam Vitkovsky; juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] juniper router reccomendations
>> 
>>> On 07/28/2016 12:50 AM, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
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>>> And on how effective is the NPU's lookup process, that is how
>>> effective is the actual lookup algorithm with CPU cycles and memory
>>> accesses, some NPUs can even offload complex lookup tasks to a
>>> specialized chip.
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>> I appreciate your presence on other forums, but I'm pretty sure nobody here
>> needs a basic explanation of how modern router platforms work. If you
>> missed it, the question was specifically about juniper and bang for the buck
>> and routing bgp on 10g and filtering.
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>> Some folks helpfully suggested using strategies to to decrease the required
>> size of the FIB, potentially meaning a lower box could do that job. That has
>> some merit, as the OP was right in that for this job I don't really care about
>> timbuktu more as whats 'close' to my two ip transit providers. I know nothing
>> of juniper and I'm just wondering if
>> MX80 is enough box for this or if I need to go higher up in the food chain. The
>> one iptransit provider at my 'A' location appears to originate about 20
>> networks from various netblocks and this would be easy to statically enter
>> into config while accepting defaults from both, achieving the same net result.
> Ok let me dial back a notch then.
> You mentioned you need DoS filtering.
> Good DoS filters can get really complex and long (hence IDS/IPS systems exist).
> Complex filters cripple router's performance.
> Bottom line, depending on the complexity of DoS filters and pps rate, going with the cheapest box might not cut it.
> Hope you got my drift this time around.
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> But to answer your question filtering 10G in and routing 1G out, there's a pretty good chance you'll be fine on MX80/MX104.
> Though as others have pointed out, how swift or scalable is the control-plane is another thing to consider.
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> PS:
> Just out of interest, would you folks know if MX80 and MX104 have a Gen2 Trio? (80Gbps per single PFE seems like Gen2, unless they are doing something "smart" with multiple LUs on one XM).
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>        Adam V