[Ndr] just fyi

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Sat Sep 30 12:13:51 EDT 2017


Anyone plan to be at NANOG?

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 11:54 Nicholas Harland <nharland at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nah, the efforts that I am aware of are for the public. The government
> solution is bringing in pallets of satellite phones daily as mentioned in
> the sitrep. Which actually brings up another issue with this misguided
> kickstarter
>
> Government and military have contracted priority on iridium. It was
> already congested with southcom traffic pre-Maria. With so many more
> priority devices coming into the area, iridium is going to be nearly
> unusable for non-priority devices.
>
> All of the NGOs are now using Inmarsat phones for this reason.
>
> In addition, the delorme/garmin is a shitty device for this. For a few
> hundred bucks more you could use an iridium go which is way more capable
> and has a similar unlimited message plan as the inreach.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 30, 2017, at 5:14 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Nick,
>
> Aren't most of the NGOs deploying VSATs servicing mostly government? Do
> they serve the public as well? If the latter, yeah, good intentions.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Nicholas Harland <nharland at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this person means well, but there are already several fully
>> funded NGO/Private efforts to restore some voice & sms service rapidly,
>> including one that includes operating equipment on licensed frequency (with
>> permission) along with transparent satellite backhaul - similar to how
>> digicell restored their service in the BVI
>>
>> I received a sitrep from a communications team on the ground today:
>>
>> The situation on the ground is this: communications are essentially
>> non-existent. This is making it very difficult for everyone, including
>> local, and federal governments to operate and coordinate. Fuel is a big
>> issue, but relief is just around the corner. Macro has hundreds of loaded
>> fuel trucks inbound to help critical facilities like hospitals, water
>> treatment facilities, etc. Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T both have their top
>> teams here repairing the networks, but it will be a long time until there’s
>> complete service restoration without the need for generator. Power and
>> electricity will remain down until linesman and trucks begin work on
>> repairing the lines, which won’t happen in earnest until the fuel situation
>> stabilizes. Most of the big telco companies are bringing very large
>> security teams, but it’s unclear whether this is totally necessary, or if
>> it’s just an over-precaution. Satellite phones are a hot commodity down
>> here; pallets are arriving almost daily for government teams and civilians
>> looking for a temporary solution until the telcos are stable.
>>
>> Nick Harland
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Stanford Mings <stanford at tech.vi>
>> wrote:
>>
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