[Outages-discussion] FEMA, W.H. send victims to Internet

VM vmemaillist at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 20:29:38 EDT 2012


I agree with your comments.  These days, people assume that everything  
went global and forget that their neighbors remain local.  Just  
walking outside seems too archaic for most folks these days.

What about using Citizen Band radios?  CB Radios are still around and  
work up to a radius of about 3 - 4 miles.  CB channel 9 was at one  
time monitored by local authorities and still may be.  If not, at  
least you may find a trucker willing to help.

On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Peter Rossi wrote:

> I figured this was the main issue, I just think it's more practical to
> expect the aforementioned Grandma to both live within a mile of
> someone else, and be able to operate a PTT radio.  If we're talking
> about residences over a mile apart, then we're talking about more
> isolated areas than north Jersey, which was mentioned.
>
> I have a problem, and I realize it sounds conspiratorial, but I feel
> people should try to be a bit more self-sufficient (at least at the
> community level) and rely a bit less on the higher and more removed
> levels of government to help them deal with their problems, but that's
> a completely different discussion, I suppose.
>
> Oh well,
>
> -Peter
> I'm just this guy, you know?
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net>  
> wrote:
>> The usual range on those is less than a mile so they are of limited
>> usefulness in a large scale disaster. The ham stuff mentioned  
>> earlier can
>> use repeaters to cover a good-size area (small city) with  
>> handhelds. The
>> shortwave stuff can be setup to cover either a region (using NVIS) or
>> internationally. All of that can be done with simple and hastily  
>> erected
>> antennas in a pinch.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "Peter Rossi" <phpete at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Peanut Gallery / Lurker here,
>>
>> Why has no one mentioned good old fashioned 2way radios?  I know cell
>> phones have all but replaced them for Joe Average User, but who
>> doesn't have a set sitting up in the attic?  We charged our EM1000Rs
>> before the storm and used them both for weather updates, and for
>> finding other people in our area who needed help by scanning
>> periodically.  The batteries when fully charged can be made to last
>> quite a while by using them sparingly, and they're cheap.
>>
>> Maybe my issue is that I'm of the opinion  that the most important
>> contact is within your local community, and this wouldn't help with
>> "official" contact for everyone, but mesh networks can be powerful,
>> and someone's bound to be connected to an official channel.
>>
>> Just my $0.02.
>>
>> -Peter
>> I'm just this guy, you know?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Byron L. Hicks
>> <byron.hicks at tx-learn.net> wrote:
>>> On 10/30/2012 10:27 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, 'cause so many people have short wave gear that operates when
>>>> power has been out long enough for their smartphone to stop working
>>>> (or at all) these days.
>>>
>>> Well, that is the point of ARRL Field Day:
>>>
>>> http://www.arrl.org/field-day
>>>
>>> 73 de KD5KLL
>>>
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