[Outages-discussion] [outages] facebook slow

[Jay R. Ashworth]

<administrator>
Yes, non-local outages in eyeball services like Facebook are on-topic, because
eyeball providers are among our audience.

That said, we continue to try to keep everyone reminded that you are making 12,000
copies, and it's not necessary to extend such threads past 3 or 4 comments...

Thanks, Sean.
</administrator>

Cheers,
-- jra

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Harlow" <sean at seanharlow.info>
> To: mikebolitho at gmail.com
> Cc: outages-discussion at outages.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:25:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] facebook slow

> Forwarding over to -discussion to keep the meta out of the main list.
> 
> The official Wiki says this is very much on topic.
> 
> https://wiki.outages.org/index.php/Main_Page
> 
> "other sorts of things -- telecom problems, Twitter dying again, etc -- are
> certainly within our scope here as well."
> 
> "a lot of our subscribers run 'eyeball' networks, and want to know about outages
> which will generate lots of end-user calls to their support lines -- therefore,
> such outages are explicitly on-topic for our lists."
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:20 AM Mike Bolitho via Outages < outages at outages.org
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I would encourage everyone to revisit the info page for the outages mailing list
> found here: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
> 
> " The purpose of this list is to have a central place to lookup and report so
> that end users & network operators know why their services (e-mail, phones,
> etc) went down eliminating the need to open tons of trouble tickets during a
> major event. One master ticket - such as fiber cut affect xxx OC48's would
> suffice. We hope this would empower users and network operators to post such
> events so that everyone could benefit from it. "
> 
> The list is for reporting outages on carrier networks and has grown to cloud
> services (AWS, Azure) as those have expanded. Facebook is not a provider of any
> meaningful business critical services, and therefore does not fit in this
> forum.
> 
> - Mike Bolitho
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mike Hammett via Outages < outages at outages.org >
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Facebook is a fairly commonly used service.
> 
> Also, it's currently broken and has been so for about an hour.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> From: "Tanner Ryan via Outages" < outages at outages.org >
> To: "jimmy keffer" < horsezip at earthlink.net >
> Cc: outages at outages.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:50:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow
> 
> I don’t see the point of sending this in the outages mailing list.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Tanner Ryan
> canadatechguy at gmail.com
> 
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