[Outages-discussion] FB Outage AAR I - Engineering Posts Pabulum

[Tom Hek]

Dunno about the US, but in Europe it's pretty easy to get basic POTS, or some type of DSL in your cabinet.

Never had an issue with it, no matter if it was Equinix, Digital Realty or one of the smaller datacentre companies in Europe.

Kind regards,

Tom

On Tue, 5 Oct 2021, at 22:08, Bryan Holloway wrote:
> These days it's next to impossible to get a POTS line run to a cabinet 
> in a major datacenter.
> 
> On the other hand, FB runs their own, so I suppose anything's possible 
> when you have more money than god.
> 
> 
> On 10/5/21 9:38 PM, Anthony Hoppe wrote:
> > If that's the case, it's a bit of an oversight.  If you're depending on DNS for OOB access, you'd want OOB DNS servers available too, heh...
> > 
> > Maybe they can go back to the golden days of sticking a modem & POTS line on the console port of their routers/switches.  Or get super fancy and deploy terminal servers at each datacenter to conserve on phone lines :-D.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Metz" <george.metz at gmail.com>
> > To: "Ross Tajvar" <ross at tajvar.io>
> > Cc: "Outages List" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:12:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] FB Outage AAR I - Engineering Posts Pabulum
> > 
> > If I had to guess (because I was wondering about that too), it was
> > because they didn't have the IPs of their out-of-band stuff available
> > and were expecting their DNS to be able to answer... and the DNS
> > servers functionally shut themselves off.
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:14 PM Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Our primary and out-of-band network access was down"
> >>
> >> Sounds like someone doesn't know what "out-of-band" means.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 2:04 PM Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This doesn't say anything we don't already know, except where it conflicts
> >>> with things we already know.  But it's fun to watch, ain't it?  ;-)
> >>>
> >>>    https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> -- jra
> >>>
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