[Outages-discussion] List suggestion?

Anthony Hoppe anthony at vofr.net
Thu Oct 7 17:55:52 EDT 2021


I'm sure this has already been considered, but just in case...

Is it possible to configure the list so that messages that are sent out via outages have the "reply to" address set to "outages-discussion"?  I don't know if that'll achieve the desired result though.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Taylor" <gtaylor at tnetconsulting.net>
To: "Outages List" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 12:47:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] List suggestion?

On 10/7/21 1:14 PM, Mike Bolitho wrote:
> I would rather not push confirmations to a different list.

I like the idea of some separation between the initial announcement and 
the subsequent discussion.  I agree that a separate list is sub-optimal. 
  But I don't know of anything better.  There might be some Mailman 
feature that we can leverage, but I don't know what that might be, nor 
do I encourage lock-in.

Aside:  In hindsight I might name lists differently with knowledge of a 
discussion list.  E.g. outages-announce / outages-notice for the initial 
message and outages-discussion / outages-replies for the subsequent 
discussion.  But that time has passed.

> The problem with the Facebook outage was that it also impacted 
> this list.

Since this is a /discussion/ mailing list, I feel okay commenting:

Q1 - How was this list impacted by the Facebook outage?
Q2 - Why was this list impacted?
Q3 - What could be done to prevent such impact in the future?

Aside:  I was driving cross country during the Facebook outage, and I 
mostly just considered it something that happened, I was uninvolved, and 
thus largely ignored it.

> Typically you don't have that many me too messages.  Maybe 4 or 5. But 
> because nobody else saw a confirmation, they were just chiming in to 
> confirm. Then when everything got unclogged, the backlog inundated 
> us. This was a one-off. I wouldn't change policy based on this 
> singular issue.

I might not change policy only based on a singular issue.  Though I 
would investigate if changing something might help minimize ~> eliminate 
the impact.  I also feel like the idea of separation of announcement & 
discussion might be larger than just this incident and worth discussing.



-- 
Grant. . . .
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