[Outages-discussion] Hypothetical: isolating a single AS from the world?

Mike Lyon mike.lyon at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 19:35:57 EDT 2022


That seems like a dumb idea. 

Go make a better company if you don’t like it. Or hell, buy it, like Elon did.

-Mike

> On Apr 25, 2022, at 16:30, Jay Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
> 
>  This is one of a number of behaviors that has come to be referred to colloquially — in the NANOG community, among others — as the Internet Death Penalty... a phrase you might productively Google. ;-)
> -- jra
> 
>> On April 25, 2022 6:15:11 PM EDT, "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal)" <Brad.Chapman at nbcuni.com> wrote:
>> Hello Outages-Discussion,
>>  
>> As a hypothetical exercise, what would it take—technically, legally, or otherwise—to disconnect a single autonomous system from the rest of the world for "disruptive activity" originating from that entity, and is such disconnection allowed under certain cases, like cyberattacks, terrorism, or threats of the same?
>>  
>> And what could said entity do—technically, legally, or otherwise—to stop the withdrawal of routes connecting to it? 
>>  
>> Do existing telecommunications laws in Western Europe and the US generally require the free and open connection of autonomous systems regardless of what is transmitted across them?  The FCC Net Neutrality rules are the closest legal framework I could find.
>>  
>> The example I had in mind for today is AS13414.
>>  
>> Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this and if it's ever been done before.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>> Brad
> 
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