[Outages-discussion] Cogent disconnecting Russia

[Darren Schreiber]

I think this is the wrong step. The Internet is what is allowing me, personally, to differentiate between CNN and RT – I have friends on Facebook and also in Ukraine and I can reach them. If we cut off Russia we prevent their citizens (and ours) from getting much needed data.

Also, creepy how fast one can lose IP space they don’t “own” themselves.



From: Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-bounces at outages.org> on behalf of Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz at sctcweb.com>
Date: Friday, March 4, 2022 at 11:59 AM
To: Matthew Petach <matt at petach.org>
Cc: Outages Discussion <outages-discussion at outages.org>
Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Cogent disconnecting Russia

Based on the wording used:

“In light of the unwarranted and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, Cogent is terminating all of your services effective at 5 p.m. GMT on March 4, 2022. The economic sanctions put in place as a result of the invasion and the increasingly uncertain security situation make it impossible for Cogent to continue to provide you with service. All Cogent-provided ports and IP address space will be reclaimed as of the termination date.”

They don't sound very neutral.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:45 AM Matthew Petach <matt at petach.org<mailto:matt at petach.org>> wrote:



If they're going to follow the War Conventions in the Hauge, they should likewise terminate all customer connections to Ukraine as well, if they're considering themselves to be a neutral party.

Of course, that doesn't apply if they're taking a side as a participant in the conflict.

Shamelessly copying from Sean Donelan...

https://www.icrc.org/en

Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and
Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 8.

Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use
on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of
wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private
individuals.


CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 9.

Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral
Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8
must be impartially applied by it to both belligerents.

A neutral Power must see to the same obligation being observed by
companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or
wireless telegraphy apparatus.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:20 Andy Ringsmuth <andy at andyring.com<mailto:andy at andyring.com>> wrote:
Apparently effective at noon EDT, which would be a couple hours ago.

Washington Post, but here’s a paywall-free archive:

https://archive.ph/TFgyg


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