[Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
Jay R. Ashworth
jra at baylink.com
Tue Jun 18 23:26:29 EDT 2024
You've again missed it, Mel:
I have the number, and I did not get it in any of the ways you suggest
I should be able to.
Cheers,
-- jra
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org>
> To: "jra" <jra at baylink.com>
> Cc: "Michael B. Williams" <michael.williams at glexia.com>, "Outages Discussion" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:09:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
> Jay,
>
> But _I_ got the phone number, whereas you did not.
>
> How do ya like them apples? 😉
>
> -mel
> ________________________________
> From: Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 7:30 PM
> To: Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org>
> Cc: Michael B. Williams <michael.williams at glexia.com>; Outages Discussion
> <outages-discussion at outages.org>
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
>
> Oh, come ON, Mel.
>
> You just quoted EXACTLY WHAT I ALREADY QUOTED, and did not answer the
> question it, and I raised: HOW DO YOU ACQUIRE THAT non-emergency PSAP
> number, which they go out of their way NOT TO GIVE OUT?
>
> If that's the best you can do, go to your quarters. Send me your sword.
>
> I've been pretty tolerant of you over the years, but it's been a stretch.
>
> Do your damn homework before telling me something I'd just told you.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jr '<admin/>' a
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org>
>> To: "jra" <jra at baylink.com>
>> Cc: "Michael B. Williams" <michael.williams at glexia.com>, "Outages Discussion"
>> <outages-discussion at outages.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 10:26:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
>
>> Seems pretty simple. I just googled “how to make a test call to 911”,
>>
>>
>> That produced as the first top result (after Google’s AI thingie):
>>
>>
>> https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=Test%20calls%20confirm%20that%20your,its%20non%2Demergency%20phone%20number.
>>
>>
>> That opens to a national PSAP FAQ, the ninth question of which is:
>>
>>
>> Q.How do I place a "test" call to make sure 911 works for me?
>>
>> A. Test calls confirm that your local 911 service can receive your 911 call and
>> has the correct location information. Test calls can be scheduled by contacting
>> your local 911 call center via its non-emergency phone number.
>>
>>
>> In your preferred search engine, search the key words “emergency communications
>> center non-emergency number" and include the names of the city or town, state,
>> and county or parish in your search. Test calls may need to be scheduled and
>> are usually based on the workload experienced at the PSAP.
>>
>>
>> For more information, visit the National Association of State 911
>> Administrators<https://www.nasna911.org/home> site.
>>
>> Please do not call 911 to obtain the non-emergency number.
>>
>>
>> Googling “emergency communications center non-emergency number"
>>
>> as instructed along with a city name got me the non-emergency number every time.
>>
>>
>> -mel
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 7:04 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
>>
>>I Am Not A Lawyer.
>>
>> But if someone tried to charge me for that, I'd just be calm and
>> professional, and tell them that I felt obligated to check the report
>> out in support of my ... whatever community I felt justified it, and if
>> they had a preferred approach, I'd be happy to do it that way *if someone
>> promulgated that information somewhere I could have gotten it*.
>>
>> IME, they protect that non-emergency number *to the PSAP* pretty closely;
>> I have it cause I got it as CNID on a callback when I had to read off a
>> dispatcher for requiring me to provide a physical street address *for the
>> middle of a major inter-county bridge*.
>>
>> This is why I question Mel's assertion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael B. Williams" <Michael.Williams at glexia.com>
>> To: "jra" <jra at baylink.com>
>> Cc: "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org>, "Outages Discussion"
>> <outages-discussion at outages.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 9:47:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
>>
>> Jay for any of us who get charged are we able to send the police your info
>> to just confirm we were testing because of the alleged outage? Is that the
>> best procedure to follow to address these issues?
>>
>> Seems ridiculous that we’d be charged for confirming if 911 service is
>> working for our clients.
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 10:59 Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
>> outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:
>>
>> [ Moving to -discuss ]
>>
>> Googling "911 test call" takes you, largely, here:
>>
>> https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/
>>
>> Googling the string they suggest:
>>
>> "emergency communications center non-emergency number 727"
>>
>> gets me a *lot* of PD and fire non-emergency numbers, but does NOT
>> give me the NE number for the 727 PSAP -- which I know because I
>> *have* that number in my dialling directory, and a complete album
>> of photos of that room before they staffed it about 10 years ago.
>> It's a very pretty call center, attached to the new PCSO building.
>>
>> So, how, exactly, are semi-civilians supposed to execute these
>> instructions, Mel? Real-world.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org>
>> To: "Michael B. Williams" <michael.williams at glexia.com>
>> Cc: "jra" <jra at baylink.com>, outages at outages.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 8:48:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide
>>
>> I’m posting this to the announce side because it appears readers of this
>> list
>> need to know this important info.
>>
>> You can’t legally “test call” 911 cold. You have to first schedule the
>> test with
>> your local Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) using their non-emergency
>> number. You can find the PSAP's non-emergency number in your local phone
>> book
>> or on their website. Some PSAPs may have specific times or dates when
>> they
>> perform test calls, so you must check their website for more information
>> handling BEFORE calling the dispatch center. And you must have an
>> industry need
>> (e.g., phone system installer, first responder, etc) to even schedule a
>> test
>> call. If anyone could make a test call, everyone would be tying up the
>> lines
>> doing that.
>>
>> All widely available, public information. You clearly didn’t do any
>> research,
>> such as googling “911 test call”.
>>
>> Which is why you’re being charged.
>>
>> Continue this discussion on the discuss list.
>>
>> -mel
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Michael B. Williams via Outages
>> <outages at outages.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I test-called 911 from about five different phones, and all went
>> through. Now I
>> am facing charges for misuse of 911 system? Seems to be fixed or
>> officially
>> bogus?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 5:24 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages
>> <outages at outages.org> wrote:
>> I have a report this 3pm Tue, hour from the authenticated FB page of the
>> Boston
>> PD,
>> that 9-1-1 service is out statewide in Mass; they're handling it as a
>> Code 2
>> AHOD;
>> flag down a cruiser if you need help.
>>
>> """
>> 9-11 is currently down statewide.
>>
>> If you are experiencing an emergency please pull a Fire Box.
>>
>> If you need assistance, please reach out to your local Boston Police
>> District
>> station.
>>
>> Boston Police will be patrolling with their blue lights activated for
>> high
>> visibility.
>> Please approach an officer if you need assistance:
>>
>> Downtown A-1: (617) 343-4240
>> Charlestown A-15: (617) 343-4888
>> East Boston A-7: (617) 343-4220
>> Roxbury B-2: (617) 343-4270
>> Mattapan B-3: (617) 343-4700
>> South Boston C-6: (617) 343-4730
>> Dorchester C-11: (617) 343-4330
>> South End D-4: (617) 343-4250
>> Allston/Brighton D-14: (617) 343-4260
>> Roslindale/ West Roxbury E-5: (617) 343-4560
>> Jamaica Plain E-13: (617) 343-5630
>> Hyde Park E-18: (617) 343-5600
>> """
>>
>> And yes, a fairly wide swath of Mass still has handle-pull fireboxes.
>>
>> We knew those would come in handy some day.
>>
>> Everything except "Officials say it's fixed now" to -discuss, please.
>>
>> And yes, "9-11" is a copy/pasta quote from the posting. Oops.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -- jra
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