[Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger rolls out end-to-end encryption, with no warning

[Shaun Potts]

idk why but this is just a really dumb thing to complain about

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:

> It's been a busy four months here; I didn't see that they did anything
> on-platform, until they actually launched it.  Thanks for the links.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeffrey Ollie" <jeff at ocjtech.us>
> > To: "jra" <jra at baylink.com>
> > Cc: "Outages Discussion" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 8:48:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger rolls out
> end-to-end encryption, with no warning
>
> > Well, no notice other than the press release that they sent out four
> months
> > ago?
> >
> >
> https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/
> >
> https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta
> >
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:55 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <
> > outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:
> >
> >> ADVISORY: Without warning, as usual, Facebook is doing another of its
> >> passive-aggressive "we're going to make things better for you, TAKE
> THAT!"
> >> moves.
> >>
> >> This one entails Messenger, and the fact that they're switching it to
> >> end-to-end encryption, so now you can talk about your affairs without
> >> your spouse who works for Facebook being able to read it.
> >>
> >> If you use the mobile Messenger client *and* the web-based one, you'll
> >> have to set (and not forget) a 6-digit pin, so that each client can
> >> decrypt
> >> your chat-message history.  There are two other choices, and one of
> those
> >> might be better for you if you *don't* use multiple devices...
> >>
> >> I would say give this one some thought before choosing, but that's where
> >> the passive-aggressive part comes in: you can't.  I didn't hear any
> >> warnings
> >> in my channels that this was coming.  And certainly none *from Facebook
> >> itself*.
> >>
> >> As usual, this is on-topic, at least for -discuss, because people who
> run
> >> eyeball networks may get queries on this from customers, and FB is Rilly
> >> Big.
> >>
> >> Be careful out there, people...
> >>
> >> Next on the docket: TikTok and it's (arguably) CCP-controlled ownership.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -- jra
> >>
> >> --
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