[outages] Major Fiber Cut in Miami

Jason LeBlanc jml at packetpimp.org
Mon Mar 7 09:23:13 EST 2011


Wow, I wake up to quite the storm.  Outage was restored early Saturday 
afternoon.  I was relaying what was told to me, which was not very 
much.  I was fishing to see if anyone else was affected.  I'll be 
looking for an RFO.

Jason

On 03/05/2011 10:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Thanks Jay.
>
> On Mar 5, 2011 9:43 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra at baylink.com 
> <mailto:jra at baylink.com>> wrote:
> > Nope; you're right. Folks; please move the SONET semantics 
> discussion to,
> > um, outages-discuss?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ken J Guy" <Ken.Guy at ambest.com <mailto:Ken.Guy at ambest.com>>
> >> To: "George Bonser" <gbonser at seven.com <mailto:gbonser at seven.com>>
> >> Cc: outages at outages.org <mailto:outages at outages.org>, 
> outages-bounces at outages.org <mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2011 5:40:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [outages] Major Fiber Cut in Miami
> >> I'm sorry to be a kvetch, but it seems to me that a simple outage
> >> notification on the "Outages" list has turned into a colloquium on
> >> SONET
> >> failure modes. If I should be in a different venue please flame away,
> >> but
> >> the SNR here for "Outages" lately is sometimes as bad as NANOG.
> >>
> >> Ken Guy
> >> Network Architect
> >> AM Best Company
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From:
> >> "George Bonser" <gbonser at seven.com <mailto:gbonser at seven.com>>
> >> To:
> >> <frnkblk at iname.com <mailto:frnkblk at iname.com>>, "Owen DeLong" 
> <owen at delong.com <mailto:owen at delong.com>>
> >> Cc:
> >> outages at outages.org <mailto:outages at outages.org>
> >> Date:
> >> 03/05/2011 04:52 PM
> >> Subject:
> >> Re: [outages] Major Fiber Cut in Miami
> >> Sent by:
> >> outages-bounces at outages.org <mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:27 PM
> >> > To: 'Owen DeLong'
> >> > Cc: outages at outages.org <mailto:outages at outages.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [outages] Major Fiber Cut in Miami
> >> >
> >> > While you're technically correct, it's not how it's commonly
> >> > implemented.
> >> > Well, maybe it's more common than I was aware. =) It's not how
> >> > regional and
> >> > state fiber networks in our neck of the woods do it.
> >> >
> >> > Frank
> >>
> >> Concur. If a customer buys a "ring" they expect a ring. Protection is
> >> implied. If they buy a point-to-point, that is a different story. A
> >> protected point-to-point might be provisioned on a ring or it might be
> >> provisioned with two separate point-to-point circuits.
> >>
> >> A "SONET ring failure" would require two faults. That said, I have
> >> seen
> >> cases where both sides of the ring enter a building by the same trench
> >> allowing one case of backhoe fade to take out the entire building.
> >>
> >>
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