[outages] Facebook Outage

[John Neiberger]

I absolutely and vehemently disagree. The first signs of a network outage
*are* application outages. If you tell people not to report major
application outages--and let's face it, Facebook's 200 million US customers
is major--then we'll miss out on crucial early detection and
troubleshooting opportunities. And what applications are we talking about,
exactly? Does VoIP become an application, something that should no longer
be discussed? It doesn't make sense to me to narrow the focus of this list
that much.

My $0.02. With that said, this really should be on the discussion list. I
guess I need to make sure I'm even subscribed to that one.

John

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:21 PM Chris Mayhew via Outages <outages at outages.org>
wrote:

> I agree that this is the wrong place for application outages, be it Slack,
> Facebook or Google.  For those who are concerned when these applications go
> down, it would be more appropriate to start an application outages list.
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> *From:* Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Neal Lawson
> via Outages
> *Sent:* August 3, 2018 15:16
> *To:* Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Cc:* OUTAGES Mailing List <outages at outages.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [outages] Facebook Outage
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> Point of order.. should this not belong on outages-discussion?
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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman via Outages <outages at outages.org>
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> As an ISP we get tons of calls when "the Internet is down" because
> Facebook.com doesn't load.  It is the third most visited website in the
> world after all.  I'm sure there are others that benefit from knowing this
> information.
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> It's disappointing you're starting a discussion on the non-discussion list
> this odd complaint is not appropriate here.
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> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:07 PM, James via Outages <outages at outages.org>
> wrote:
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> I’m surprised a Facebook outage rises to the level that it would be
> included in this list.  I guess disappointed is more appropriate.
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> James
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> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 1:53 PM Eduardo Schoedler via Outages <
> outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> 2018-08-03 14:04 GMT-03:00 Saymon Fernandes via Outages <
> outages at outages.org>:
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> Hello,
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> Anyone knows what caused this ?
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> noc at fb.com
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