[outages] facebook slow

Tue Nov 20 10:59:28 EST 2018

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On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:53 AM, Ken Matlock via Outages <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:

If only there was a discussion list, to discuss what is and is not on topic for the outages mailing list.  If it were me, I'd name it outages-discussion. ;-)

Ken

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 8:47 AM Christopher Conley via Outages <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:
“Also, it’s worth pointing out that the by-chatter on this issue has generated ten times the traffic that the original notification did. If a notification isn’t useful to you in particular, surely you can let it go by without comment.”

But if you just ignore it like a reasonable person, other people wouldn’t know that they’re being wrong on the Internet! We can’t let that happen, Rob. We must be vigilant in our gatekeeping.

Christopher Conley
Systems Administrator |  Fors Marsh Group
Arlington, VA 22203

From: Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>> On Behalf Of Rob Repp via Outages
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:33 AM
To: Otto, Doug <dotto at phs.org<mailto:dotto at phs.org>>
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Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Agreed. For example, we’re an educational setting, and it’s in common use for community communications here. Also, it’s worth pointing out that the by-chatter on this issue has generated ten times the traffic that the original notification did. If a notification isn’t useful to you in particular, surely you can let it go by without comment.
Tks,
R.

Rob Repp
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On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Otto, Doug via Outages <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:

Whether Facebook is or isn’t business critical depends on the nature of the business. If it’s not important to you, ignore the email. What’s so hard about that?

From: Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>> on behalf of "Ferullo, Michael J. via Outages" <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>>
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Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:25 AM
To: 'Steven McCrory' <steven at simplyip.net<mailto:steven at simplyip.net>>, 'Mike Bolitho' <mikebolitho at gmail.com<mailto:mikebolitho at gmail.com>>, "outages at ics-il.net<mailto:outages at ics-il.net>" <outages at ics-il.net<mailto:outages at ics-il.net>>
Cc: "'outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>'" <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>>
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Also much in agreement here. I signed up for this list for exactly what Mike stated: meaningful business critical services. I’d suggest someone spearhead the creation of another list for anything “social media” related.

Michael J. Ferullo
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From: Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>> On Behalf Of Steven McCrory via Outages
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Wholeheartedly agree

From: Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org<mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org>> On Behalf Of Mike Bolitho via Outages
Sent: 20 November 2018 15:18
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Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

I would encourage everyone to revisit the info page for the outages mailing list found here: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

"The purpose of this list is to have a central place to lookup and report so that end users & network operators know why their services (e-mail, phones, etc) went down eliminating the need to open tons of trouble tickets during a major event. One master ticket - such as fiber cut affect xxx OC48's would suffice. We hope this would empower users and network operators to post such events so that everyone could benefit from it. "

The list is for reporting outages on carrier networks and has grown to cloud services (AWS, Azure) as those have expanded. Facebook is not a provider of any meaningful business critical services, and therefore does not fit in this forum.

- Mike Bolitho

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mike Hammett via Outages <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>> wrote:
Facebook is a fairly commonly used service.

Also, it's currently broken and has been so for about an hour.

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From: "Tanner Ryan via Outages" <outages at outages.org<mailto:outages at outages.org>>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:50:40 AM
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

I don’t see the point of sending this in the outages mailing list.

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