[outages] Ping to Google 8.8.8.8

[Carlos Alvarez]

This belongs on the discussion list and not on the Outages list.
On Feb 9, 2022, 11:38 AM -0700, Grant Taylor via Outages <outages at outages.org>, wrote:
> On 2/8/22 11:46 PM, Mark Tinka via Outages wrote:
> > You mean like PMTUd, and such :-)?
>
> Not what I originally meant, but sure.
>
> > We probably won't get that one back, and unless we do something,
> > inability to ping 8.8.8.8 will result in unnecessary NOC tickets
> > claiming "the Internet is down".
>
> Probably some, for a while. (See more below.)
>
> > Yes, this helps Google not having to deal with the problem, but it
> > passes the burden both to the ISP who has to explain why the Internet is
> > now down, and to some other online service who now has to sink ping
> > traffic. Perhaps Yahoo will pick that priviledge up again, like they did
> > back in the day :-(...
>
> So ... an end user education issue.
>
> - No, the Internet is not down.
> - The specific test you are doing is (now) bad (for reasons).
> - See how your $StreamingServiceVideo is still playing? -- Did you
> receive the test email I just sent you?
>
> The Internet is /up/.
>
> Who should be responsible for an ISP's user base? I'd naively think
> that the ISP should be responsible for their own user base. Why should
> we foist this responsibility off onto another organization?
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>
>
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