[outages] Ping to Google 8.8.8.8

[Phil Sykes]

AS15169 in Chicago did have issues Tuesday 2022-02-08, which would have
affected ICMP traffic to the DNS server IPs.
We believe the impact time was roughly 2022-02-08 09:30 - 22:30 CST.

I'd be interested in a unicast followup if anyone's still seeing issues
today.

While indeed we have no SLA for ICMP to Google public DNS, we're not
currently *intending* for it to suddenly stop working or otherwise have
dramatic behavior shifts.

Phil, for AS15169

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 6:51 PM Carlos Alvarez via Outages <
outages at outages.org> wrote:

> This belongs on the discussion list and not on the Outages list.
> On Feb 9, 2022, 11:38 AM -0700, Grant Taylor via Outages <
> outages at outages.org>, wrote:
>
> On 2/8/22 11:46 PM, Mark Tinka via Outages wrote:
>
> You mean like PMTUd, and such :-)?
>
>
> Not what I originally meant, but sure.
>
> We probably won't get that one back, and unless we do something,
> inability to ping 8.8.8.8 will result in unnecessary NOC tickets
> claiming "the Internet is down".
>
>
> Probably some, for a while. (See more below.)
>
> Yes, this helps Google not having to deal with the problem, but it
> passes the burden both to the ISP who has to explain why the Internet is
> now down, and to some other online service who now has to sink ping
> traffic. Perhaps Yahoo will pick that priviledge up again, like they did
> back in the day :-(...
>
>
> So ... an end user education issue.
>
> - No, the Internet is not down.
> - The specific test you are doing is (now) bad (for reasons).
> - See how your $StreamingServiceVideo is still playing? -- Did you
> receive the test email I just sent you?
>
> The Internet is /up/.
>
> Who should be responsible for an ISP's user base? I'd naively think
> that the ISP should be responsible for their own user base. Why should
> we foist this responsibility off onto another organization?
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>
>
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