[outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: IPAWS/FEMA National Test - VoWIFI

Wilson, Butch bwilson at mvths.org
Thu Oct 5 08:21:20 EDT 2023


I had wondered about the delays yesterday. One of my user's phones went off
almost two hours after the window.

Butch Wilson
Dir. of Instructional Technology
Mt. Vernon Township High School
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 6:10 PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages <
outages at outages.org> wrote:

> Are these alerts queued up for later delivery if a device is off-line, out
> of range, or connected to a Wi-Fi calling network (where these types of
> cellular signals are not relayed?)
>
> If so, how long are they stored before being purged from the system?  1
> hour?  24 hours?
>
> -Brad
>
> —Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 4, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages <
> outages at outages.org> wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jay R. Ashworth via Outages" <outages at outages.org>
> >
> >> I could be unsurprised to find that the carrier VoWIFI proxies missed
> out on
> >> proxying SMS Cell Broadcast, which I gather provides the underlying PHY
> for
> >> CMAS.
> >
> > I have now an authoritative report that no, the carrier WIFI proxies --
> > carrying your voice calls to your carrier over someone else's wifi and
> the
> > Internet, to be clear -- does *not* proxy the cellular control channel
> > necessary to make CMAS/WEA work, and those alerts can be expected NOT to
> > arrive if your phone is on WIFI only or out of all range of ANY
> carrier's
> > towers.
> >
> > The only reports I'm still looking for are ones from people who are sure
> their
> > phone was set to WIFI-only, and was out of range of cell coverage, and
> still
> > got the national test alert, today at 1418EDT.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -- jra
> > --
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