[outages] Outages Digest, Vol 190, Issue 1
John-Paul Reed
johnpaulable at gmail.com
Mon Aug 5 14:41:02 EDT 2024
It looks like Microsoft services may be having issues again. One Drive not
loading properly, Microsoft Store issues and other MS issues.
Regards,
John-Paul Reed
IT Consultant
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024, 9:18 AM <outages-request at outages.org> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all apparently down.
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> 2. Re: Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all apparently down.
> (Josh Luthman)
> 3. Centurylink down in Colorado (Casey Johnson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:09:11 -0400
> From: Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com>
> To: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
> Cc: Jeff Martinez <jeff at bbdp.com>, Chris Adams via Outages
> <outages at outages.org>
> Subject: Re: [outages] Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all
> apparently down.
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> i find it *really **really *hard to believe that you or your org doesn't
> use AD, or GitHub, or any external service that interfaces with
> Entra/AAD/whatever microsoft has named it this month, or <you name it here>
> but if that's the case, good on you. other cloud providers have outages
> too, just as bad, and in the grand scheme of things just as frequently,
> just not recently.
>
> also worth saying, crowdstrike still wasn't a microsoft issue, aside from
> being the affected platform. crowdstrike has caused kernel panics on linux
> machines too *shrug*
>
> anyways, not looking to get into a nerd fight with someone who has
> realistically done a lot for the world's internet infrastructure,
>
> it always just really saddens me when i see people in prestigious positions
> in tech taking positions like this, which are really below people in their
> station. i guess i would just say try to put on a better face as someone
> people in tech should be looking up to instead of gaining internet points
> by batting at low-hanging fruit when a major provider has a major outage.
>
> next time layer3 or akamai or <insert backbone provider here> has a major
> outage, would you quickly jump to go "haha, not affected here either!" or
> are you just letting personal bias get in the way of rational discourse?
>
> my $0.02
>
> (p.s. neither of the companies i work for or make technical decisions for
> have a huge foot in microsoft tech either, this is just me being purely
> objective)
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:49?PM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:37, Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > right because no vendor any of us use has interdependencies with
> > microsoft services
> >
> > That was exactly my point. Some people make choices which prove to have
> > Microsoft dependencies, some don?t. It?s a choice. Some people make it
> > each way. Then Microsoft has yet another outage, as they VERY FREQUENTLY
> > do, and somehow, some people are surprised, all over again. But it was
> > their choice. Some people try to convince themselves that Microsoft is
> in
> > the ?death and taxes? category. This is just your reminder that it?s
> not,
> > it?s in the ?self harm/own-goal? category. If you were affected, AGAIN,
> > you could make other choices, and join the camp that doesn?t have
> anything
> > to complain about when Microsoft has an outage AGAIN.
> >
> > Admittedly, I was a bit worried at first when I saw airlines complaining
> > about the Crowdstrike/Microsoft outage, but my travel was all on United,
> > and it turned out that they hadn?t made the mistake of using either
> > anywhere critical, just on kiosk display stuff. So, good for them,
> though
> > it would be better if they didn?t flirt with these kinds of risks at all,
> > since they seemingly propagate when people aren?t paying attention.
> >
> > -Bill
> >
> >
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 13:16:18 -0400
> From: Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>, Chris Adams via Outages
> <outages at outages.org>
> Subject: Re: [outages] Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all
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> PLEASE discuss in outages-discussion@
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> Please post any outage updates in outages@
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> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:09?PM Shaun Potts via Outages <
> outages at outages.org>
> wrote:
>
> > i find it *really **really *hard to believe that you or your org doesn't
> > use AD, or GitHub, or any external service that interfaces with
> > Entra/AAD/whatever microsoft has named it this month, or <you name it
> here>
> > but if that's the case, good on you. other cloud providers have outages
> > too, just as bad, and in the grand scheme of things just as frequently,
> > just not recently.
> >
> > also worth saying, crowdstrike still wasn't a microsoft issue, aside from
> > being the affected platform. crowdstrike has caused kernel panics on
> linux
> > machines too *shrug*
> >
> > anyways, not looking to get into a nerd fight with someone who has
> > realistically done a lot for the world's internet infrastructure,
> >
> > it always just really saddens me when i see people in prestigious
> > positions in tech taking positions like this, which are really below
> people
> > in their station. i guess i would just say try to put on a better face as
> > someone people in tech should be looking up to instead of gaining
> internet
> > points by batting at low-hanging fruit when a major provider has a major
> > outage.
> >
> > next time layer3 or akamai or <insert backbone provider here> has a major
> > outage, would you quickly jump to go "haha, not affected here either!" or
> > are you just letting personal bias get in the way of rational discourse?
> >
> > my $0.02
> >
> > (p.s. neither of the companies i work for or make technical decisions for
> > have a huge foot in microsoft tech either, this is just me being purely
> > objective)
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:49?PM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:37, Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > right because no vendor any of us use has interdependencies with
> >> microsoft services
> >>
> >> That was exactly my point. Some people make choices which prove to have
> >> Microsoft dependencies, some don?t. It?s a choice. Some people make it
> >> each way. Then Microsoft has yet another outage, as they VERY
> FREQUENTLY
> >> do, and somehow, some people are surprised, all over again. But it was
> >> their choice. Some people try to convince themselves that Microsoft is
> in
> >> the ?death and taxes? category. This is just your reminder that it?s
> not,
> >> it?s in the ?self harm/own-goal? category. If you were affected, AGAIN,
> >> you could make other choices, and join the camp that doesn?t have
> anything
> >> to complain about when Microsoft has an outage AGAIN.
> >>
> >> Admittedly, I was a bit worried at first when I saw airlines complaining
> >> about the Crowdstrike/Microsoft outage, but my travel was all on United,
> >> and it turned out that they hadn?t made the mistake of using either
> >> anywhere critical, just on kiosk display stuff. So, good for them,
> though
> >> it would be better if they didn?t flirt with these kinds of risks at
> all,
> >> since they seemingly propagate when people aren?t paying attention.
> >>
> >> -Bill
> >>
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> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:11:22 +0000
> From: Casey Johnson <casey at coloradointerlink.com>
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> Subject: [outages] Centurylink down in Colorado
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> Anyone with Lumen/Centurylink fiber or MPLS circuits in Colorado down? I
> have 5 customers that are down hard right now.
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