[outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22

Thu Feb 22 12:42:08 EST 2024

Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like
speculation at this point.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages at outages.org>
wrote:

> Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using
> e-sims instead.
>
> (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need
> to work with a backwards carrier).
>
> I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo
> which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US.
> (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well
> (several of them were also mentioned).
>
> An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.
>
> Owen
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> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages at outages.org>
> wrote:
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>  Agreed!
>
> After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email
> signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a
> huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages
> happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort
> offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack
> thereof).
>
> Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell
> phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another
> carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use
> the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected.
>
> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages <
> outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> Remember.  This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by
> humans.       At least for now…..  😊
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> -richey
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> *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM
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> *Subject: *Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
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> I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software
> are going to fail and have backup plans/methods.  Either the business pays
> for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects
> the bottom line.  It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business
> is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy.  But if we are out for
> x hours it will cost y dollars.  What's your business decision: pay for
> redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a
> technical issue; it is a business issue.
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> ;)
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> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages <
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> We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this
> has been lovely….
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> Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of
> them  just not at the same time..   I agree cant wait to see the post
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> One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t
> appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have
> no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and
> receive calls.
>
> Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G
> service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones
> sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others
> having no service at all.
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> I’d love to see the postmortem on this.
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> Jeremy
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