[outages] Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all apparently down.

[Josh Luthman]

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:09 PM Shaun Potts via Outages <outages at outages.org>
wrote:

> i find it *really **really *hard to believe that you or your org doesn't
> use AD, or GitHub, or any external service that interfaces with
> Entra/AAD/whatever microsoft has named it this month, or <you name it here>
> but if that's the case, good on you. other cloud providers have outages
> too, just as bad, and in the grand scheme of things just as frequently,
> just not recently.
>
> also worth saying, crowdstrike still wasn't a microsoft issue, aside from
> being the affected platform. crowdstrike has caused kernel panics on linux
> machines too *shrug*
>
> anyways, not looking to get into a nerd fight with someone who has
> realistically done a lot for the world's internet infrastructure,
>
> it always just really saddens me when i see people in prestigious
> positions in tech taking positions like this, which are really below people
> in their station. i guess i would just say try to put on a better face as
> someone people in tech should be looking up to instead of gaining internet
> points by batting at low-hanging fruit when a major provider has a major
> outage.
>
> next time layer3 or akamai or <insert backbone provider here> has a major
> outage, would you quickly jump to go "haha, not affected here either!" or
> are you just letting personal bias get in the way of rational discourse?
>
> my $0.02
>
> (p.s. neither of the companies i work for or make technical decisions for
> have a huge foot in microsoft tech either, this is just me being purely
> objective)
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:49 PM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:37, Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > right because no vendor any of us use has interdependencies with
>> microsoft services
>>
>> That was exactly my point.  Some people make choices which prove to have
>> Microsoft dependencies, some don’t.  It’s a choice.  Some people make it
>> each way.  Then Microsoft has yet another outage, as they VERY FREQUENTLY
>> do, and somehow, some people are surprised, all over again.  But it was
>> their choice.  Some people try to convince themselves that Microsoft is in
>> the “death and taxes” category.  This is just your reminder that it’s not,
>> it’s in the “self harm/own-goal” category.  If you were affected, AGAIN,
>> you could make other choices, and join the camp that doesn’t have anything
>> to complain about when Microsoft has an outage AGAIN.
>>
>> Admittedly, I was a bit worried at first when I saw airlines complaining
>> about the Crowdstrike/Microsoft outage, but my travel was all on United,
>> and it turned out that they hadn’t made the mistake of using either
>> anywhere critical, just on kiosk display stuff.  So, good for them, though
>> it would be better if they didn’t flirt with these kinds of risks at all,
>> since they seemingly propagate when people aren’t paying attention.
>>
>>                                 -Bill
>>
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