[outages] Microsoft Azure, 365 and status page all apparently down.

[Shaun Potts]

i find it *really **really *hard to believe that you or your org doesn't
use AD, or GitHub, or any external service that interfaces with
Entra/AAD/whatever microsoft has named it this month, or <you name it here>
but if that's the case, good on you. other cloud providers have outages
too, just as bad, and in the grand scheme of things just as frequently,
just not recently.

also worth saying, crowdstrike still wasn't a microsoft issue, aside from
being the affected platform. crowdstrike has caused kernel panics on linux
machines too *shrug*

anyways, not looking to get into a nerd fight with someone who has
realistically done a lot for the world's internet infrastructure,

it always just really saddens me when i see people in prestigious positions
in tech taking positions like this, which are really below people in their
station. i guess i would just say try to put on a better face as someone
people in tech should be looking up to instead of gaining internet points
by batting at low-hanging fruit when a major provider has a major outage.

next time layer3 or akamai or <insert backbone provider here> has a major
outage, would you quickly jump to go "haha, not affected here either!" or
are you just letting personal bias get in the way of rational discourse?

my $0.02

(p.s. neither of the companies i work for or make technical decisions for
have a huge foot in microsoft tech either, this is just me being purely
objective)

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:49 PM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:37, Shaun Potts <shaun.m.potts at gmail.com> wrote:
> > right because no vendor any of us use has interdependencies with
> microsoft services
>
> That was exactly my point.  Some people make choices which prove to have
> Microsoft dependencies, some don’t.  It’s a choice.  Some people make it
> each way.  Then Microsoft has yet another outage, as they VERY FREQUENTLY
> do, and somehow, some people are surprised, all over again.  But it was
> their choice.  Some people try to convince themselves that Microsoft is in
> the “death and taxes” category.  This is just your reminder that it’s not,
> it’s in the “self harm/own-goal” category.  If you were affected, AGAIN,
> you could make other choices, and join the camp that doesn’t have anything
> to complain about when Microsoft has an outage AGAIN.
>
> Admittedly, I was a bit worried at first when I saw airlines complaining
> about the Crowdstrike/Microsoft outage, but my travel was all on United,
> and it turned out that they hadn’t made the mistake of using either
> anywhere critical, just on kiosk display stuff.  So, good for them, though
> it would be better if they didn’t flirt with these kinds of risks at all,
> since they seemingly propagate when people aren’t paying attention.
>
>                                 -Bill
>
>
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