[VoiceOps] 10 digit craziness

David Hiers hiersd at gmail.com
Wed Dec 23 10:57:44 EST 2009

I'm all for e.164 everywhere, no assumptions required.


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Carlos Alvarez <carlos at televolve.com> wrote:
> On 12/22/09 1:31 PM, Peter Beckman wrote:
>> I'm kinda sick of all of us US-based folk thinking we don't have to use
>> our country code. I think all wholesale VoIP providers, even if they just
>> handle US/Canada, should require the use of the leading country code for
>> all
>> calls, NANPA-terminated included, and for origination that CallerID should
>> ALWAYS include the country code.
> I agree that country code plus number is the bare minimum, but I've only run
> into one carrier that refused to ("couldn't") do that.  Ironic because they
> also do international origination, so calls are delivered to us without any
> way to know if they are US area+number or country+number.
>> You know how hard it is to standardize, both internally and globally,
>> when most telecom providers only support 10 digit caller ID? What about
>> the UK? What about China? And when callerID comes in, and it doesn't
>> conform to NANPA NPANXXXXXX, what country IS it from? I can guess, but
>> I'd like to know, not guess.
> I've never run into an issue with the CID side of things.  I don't think
> it's that important, but maybe others do.  We just pass it along as it is.
> --
> Carlos Alvarez
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