[VoiceOps] efax port out

[Jed Stafford]

Porting is a two party process. If the owning carrier does not release the number the port will not go through.

On Apr 26, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Paul Timmins wrote:

> What would be interesting would be to have a cooperating carrier do a portout without concurrence, and then let them file a slamming complaint and try to justify that they are the end user. Of course, it'd have to be someone with some big stones.
> 
> On 04/26/2011 12:28 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>> They are an ITSP, and the FCC ruling trumps the contract.  What I'm saying is that there is nothing clear on these non-carrier services, so the contract still has weight.  It's clear that Efax and the others are not ITSPs.  Last I heard you couldn't port from Google Voice, and they are big enough to make this an issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Timmins wrote:
>>> VoicePulse had similar language in their contracts, and it didn't do a
>>> thing for them.
>>> 
>>> On 04/26/2011 11:45 AM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>>>> Here's an additional complication I forgot to mention: These services
>>>> all seem to include "you can't port" into their TOS. At least Efax and
>>>> Answer Phoenix, the two I researched, do. So not only is our position
>>>> with the FCC tenuous at best, the customer effectively signed a
>>>> contract acknowledging that they don't own the numbers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Justin B Newman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Eric Hiller<clec at cygnustel.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So what should the next step be, go back to XO and say all of this
>>>>>> to them
>>>>>> and see if they budge?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck. The last time I tried this, XO (and the provider) asserted:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Information Service
>>>>> - Person asserting end-user status not customer of record
>>>>> 
>>>>> The FCC indicated that to pursue the complaint a fee would be required
>>>>> - and it wasn't worth it to anyone involved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -jbn
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