[VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC

[Paul Timmins]

No ILEC I've ever seen will let you port without an ICA


On 06/16/2011 07:12 PM, Eric Hiller wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> But what if you were in a LATA where ATT is and you have no ICA with ATT
> just some other ILEC in the LATA? Are you saying that ATT would not allow
> you to port any numbers from them without an ICA?
>
> -Eric
>
> On Thu, June 16, 2011 5:30 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>    
>> Eric,
>>
>> We just went through this battle with att we thought the same but reading
>> deep into our ICA we had to get minimum trunks to all the tandems in the
>> lata 2x t1's and then we ordered the majority of our trunking at the
>> tandem where we homed our LRN.  It sucks but we haven't found a way around
>> it.
>>
>> Carlos Alcantar
>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
>> www.race.com<http://www.race.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/11 2:02 PM, "Eric Hiller"<clec at cygnustel.com>  wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> I would not think you would need trunks to all the tandems in the lata
>>> for
>>> TERMINATIONS though, just ORIGINATIONS as Mary Lou had said?
>>>
>>> For example I can port a number from Level 3 even though I am not on
>>> every
>>> tandem in the LATA now.
>>>
>>> Is this correct Mary Lou? So if I added 4 new LATAs and I just wanted to
>>> do terminations, I would just have to establish a new LRN in each LATA as
>>> well as trunking to the tandem my LRN is homed on?
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>>
>>> On Wed, June 15, 2011 5:59 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>
>>>> At least here in CA att makes you trunk to all the tandems in the lata.
>>>> At least with min trunks and you build your bulk of your trunks where
>>>> your
>>>> LRN is going to sit at.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos at race.com /
>>>> www.race.com<http://www.race.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/15/11 10:55 AM, "Mary Lou Carey"<marylou at backuptelecom.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> To terminate traffic you only need to have trunking to the LRN tandem
>>>>> in
>>>>> that LATA, but to originate traffic you need to have trunking
>>>>> established
>>>>> to
>>>>> the tandem that the rate center of the NXX homes on. Once we have all
>>>>> your
>>>>> Chicago trunks installed, you will be able to port any number in the
>>>>> LATA
>>>>> to
>>>>> yourself. Make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou Carey
>>>>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>>>>> CLEC Consultant
>>>>> OFF: 615-791-9969
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>>>>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Eric Hiller
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:50 AM
>>>>> To: voiceops at voiceops.org
>>>>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to port a number, what trunking requirements do we have? Is it
>>>>> that we have to have trunking to the same tandem as the npa-nxx holder?
>>>>> IE. If I wanted to port 100-100-1000 And the 100-100-1 thousands block
>>>>> is
>>>>> held by company A, and then 100-100 npanxx/ten k block is held by
>>>>> Company
>>>>> B and is homed on Tandem C, then I just need to have trunking into
>>>>> Tandem
>>>>> C and have an ICA with whomever controls Tandem C, which could be
>>>>> company
>>>>> A,B or some third company C correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> The same would apply in order to get our own thousands block as well
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Eric Hiller
>>>>> Cygnus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>>
>>      
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