[VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC

[Eric Hiller]

Ah, so it is just CLECs ala Level 3 and XO that let us do this then?

-Eric

On Thu, June 16, 2011 6:15 pm, Paul Timmins wrote:
> No ILEC I've ever seen will let you port without an ICA
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> On 06/16/2011 07:12 PM, Eric Hiller wrote:
>> Carlos,
>>
>> But what if you were in a LATA where ATT is and you have no ICA with ATT
>> just some other ILEC in the LATA? Are you saying that ATT would not
>> allow
>> you to port any numbers from them without an ICA?
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> On Thu, June 16, 2011 5:30 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> We just went through this battle with att we thought the same but
>>> reading
>>> deep into our ICA we had to get minimum trunks to all the tandems in
>>> the
>>> lata 2x t1's and then we ordered the majority of our trunking at the
>>> tandem where we homed our LRN.  It sucks but we haven't found a way
>>> around
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
>>> www.race.com<http://www.race.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/16/11 2:02 PM, "Eric Hiller"<clec at cygnustel.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would not think you would need trunks to all the tandems in the lata
>>>> for
>>>> TERMINATIONS though, just ORIGINATIONS as Mary Lou had said?
>>>>
>>>> For example I can port a number from Level 3 even though I am not on
>>>> every
>>>> tandem in the LATA now.
>>>>
>>>> Is this correct Mary Lou? So if I added 4 new LATAs and I just wanted
>>>> to
>>>> do terminations, I would just have to establish a new LRN in each LATA
>>>> as
>>>> well as trunking to the tandem my LRN is homed on?
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, June 15, 2011 5:59 pm, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mary Lou,
>>>>>
>>>>> At least here in CA att makes you trunk to all the tandems in the
>>>>> lata.
>>>>> At least with min trunks and you build your bulk of your trunks where
>>>>> your
>>>>> LRN is going to sit at.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos Alcantar
>>>>> Race Communications / Race Team Member
>>>>> 101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
>>>>> Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos at race.com /
>>>>> www.race.com<http://www.race.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/15/11 10:55 AM, "Mary Lou Carey"<marylou at backuptelecom.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> To terminate traffic you only need to have trunking to the LRN
>>>>>> tandem
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> that LATA, but to originate traffic you need to have trunking
>>>>>> established
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the tandem that the rate center of the NXX homes on. Once we have
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> Chicago trunks installed, you will be able to port any number in the
>>>>>> LATA
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> yourself. Make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Lou Carey
>>>>>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>>>>>> CLEC Consultant
>>>>>> OFF: 615-791-9969
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
>>>>>> [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Eric Hiller
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:50 AM
>>>>>> To: voiceops at voiceops.org
>>>>>> Subject: [VoiceOps] Porting Number - CLEC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to port a number, what trunking requirements do we have? Is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> that we have to have trunking to the same tandem as the npa-nxx
>>>>>> holder?
>>>>>> IE. If I wanted to port 100-100-1000 And the 100-100-1 thousands
>>>>>> block
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> held by company A, and then 100-100 npanxx/ten k block is held by
>>>>>> Company
>>>>>> B and is homed on Tandem C, then I just need to have trunking into
>>>>>> Tandem
>>>>>> C and have an ICA with whomever controls Tandem C, which could be
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> A,B or some third company C correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same would apply in order to get our own thousands block as well
>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -Eric Hiller
>>>>>> Cygnus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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