[VoiceOps] Canadian TFN Calls
gb20090101 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 12:27:56 EDT 2012
It's blocked by IXC (long distance carrier) who actually delivers the call to that RBC's number who _knows_ (a "jurisdiction" parameter in TF's lookup TCAP's return) that the calls were NOT originated from Toronto, because they arrived from an US operator. Moreover - it's already known case specifically about RBC (as well as about some other high profile TFN owners) that they _reject_ to pay for such US originated, fake "Toronto" calls.
On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Jared Geiger wrote:
A specific example I have is calling the Royal Bank of Canada works
from a US Number on our US based providers however sending a Canadian
Caller ID makes the call fail.
1-800-769-2511 is the number.
RBC is not blocking Toronto or Vancouver based telephone numbers from
calling them but when I set the Caller ID to be from those areas, it
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, GB <gb20090101 at gmail.com> wrote:
> A TFN has no geographical belonging. When issued by a RespOrg - it's just "a" 800/888/877/866/855 number.
> For TFNs there is such a thing as _area_of_service which can be a set on request of a TFN owner (user) to include a list of countries (f.e. - Caribbean region), a country - for example - Canada or US, a list of LATAs or a single one, list of NPAs and or NPA NXXs as well as any combination of the above.
> If a TFN owner wants to limit its area of service to Great Toronto ONLY - they can do it (by asking their RespOrg). Because the TFN owner pays for calls coming to his/her number depending on a call's origin.
> Just to give an example - an average rate to get a TF call from Alaska to New York is ABOVE $0.20. Therefore a local liqueur store or even Mercedes Benz dealership don't want for calls from Alaska to hit their numbers even by mistake.
> Regarding "playing" a message - this is a correct behavior because _what_ should be done in case of call being out of area of service is also configured by a request from TFN owner by its RespOrg. A CLEC which received a call to a TFN does SS7/TCAP request to its TF lookup provider in order to find out to where the call should be sent (which IXC - long distance carrier) to. If no carrier for originating area of service returned - then a type of message preconfigured on TFN's record must be played back to a caller.
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Jared Geiger wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Shripal Daphtary <shripald at gmail.com> wrote:
>> oops, didn't finish my though.
>> i'm assuming there is no way to differentiate between a US TFN and CANADIAN
>> TFN right?
> There isn't a way to tell. Some TFN that a Canadian dials won't
> terminate but then the same number dialed will terminate with a US
> Caller ID.
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