[VoiceOps] [VOIPSEC] Tackling VoIP fraud, new idea

Hiers, David David.Hiers at adp.com
Fri Feb 21 15:48:42 EST 2014

The key is vetting the participants.  Even the feds have a hard time with that...


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From: Voipsec [mailto:voipsec-bounces at voipsa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Collier
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 12:44
To: J. Oquendo
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org; voipsec at voipsa.org; Peter Beckman
Subject: Re: [VOIPSEC] [VoiceOps] Tackling VoIP fraud, new idea

I like the idea of the list and will participate

Mark D. Collier
Chief Technology Officer/VP Engineering
Securelogix Corporation
13750 San Pedro
San Antonio, Texas 78232
(210) 863-9001

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:23 PM, "J. Oquendo" <sil at infiltrated.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014, Sergey Kolesnichenko wrote:
>> Why dont't you want to speak about tactics here openly?
> Common sense. This is a public list, and there is no way for me to 
> determine the intentions of anyone who is a subscriber to the list. It 
> is a KNOWN fact, that criminals subscribe to security mailing lists 
> such as Bugtraq, Full Disclosure and others. Not for the sake of 
> lending a helping hand, but for other means. Much similar to malware 
> authors who run their malware through VirusTotal to see if anything is 
> going to detect it.
> On a private list, there is the accountability factor to equate. 
> Someone subscribed using a corporate email address.
> Therefore SOME form of vetting took place.
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