[VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with guaranteed accuracy

[Paul Timmins]

Right. All these products are doing is doing the NPA-NXX lookup AFTER 
the LNP lookup. The NPA-NXX of the LRN is the carrier of record. If it's 
a cell phone company NPA/NXX you're dealing with a cellphone.

-Paul

On 08/19/2015 07:25 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
> Their lists are already cleaned by NPA-NXX, it's just not sufficient 
> any more because of LNP.  Looks like the TCPA compliance product from 
> Neustar, which someone else posted yesterday, is the best solution.  
> Pretty cheap too.  It's just indicates intermodal porting of a number 
> with no other info.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM Paul Timmins <paul at timmins.net 
> <mailto:paul at timmins.net>> wrote:
>
>     I know a guy who runs a site that sells the npa nxx to carrier
>     type at a fraction of the lerg costs....
>
>     On Aug 19, 2015 11:39 AM, Alex Balashov <abalashov at evaristesys.com
>     <mailto:abalashov at evaristesys.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > ‎Indeed, you'd start from the NPAC, which would get you, for a
>     given TN, an LRN. Then what?
>     > ‎
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>     >   Original Message
>     > From: Kidd Filby
>     > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:52
>     > To: Carlos Alvarez
>     > Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Preventing calls to cell phones with
>     guaranteed accuracy
>     >
>     > If I were to offer this service or database access, I would
>     start with my own local copy of NPAC that I'd update every
>     X-minutes a day.  This product is available now and has been for a
>     while.  This is the only sure-way, I know of, to have the most
>     accurate data to work from.
>     >
>     > Kidd
>     >
>     > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Carlos Alvarez
>     <caalvarez at gmail.com <mailto:caalvarez at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > I have a customer in market research who is legally required to
>     manually dial calls to cell phones.  Right now they are
>     considering abandoning all of their auto/predictive dialer
>     software and going to manual dial for everything, because the
>     list-scrubbing services have been shown to be inaccurate.  There
>     are extreme penalties for auto-dialing a cell phone, and "best
>     effort" is NOT a defense to this, at all.  For example, Gallup
>     just settle a claim for $12M.
>     >
>     > So they need a totally accurate way to prevent a cell phone call
>     from originating from their dialer.  The only thing I can think of
>     is some sort of LRN dip + LRN-to-carrier-type response.  One of
>     their people talked to Neustar, but didn't get great answers
>     because he doesn't really understand telephony.  Before I get in
>     touch with Neustar, I thought I'd see if people here have some ideas.
>     >
>     > If you provide a commercial product for this, please feel free
>     to tell me so on or off list, the customer is willing to pay for
>     the service and we're open to all options.  I don't have a budget
>     number yet but manual dialing is going to cost them quite a bit
>     for some types of studies.
>     >
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