[VoiceOps] Future of the Traditional PSTN vs VOIP and VoLTE

Mark R Lindsey lindsey at e-c-group.com
Wed Dec 9 11:26:29 EST 2015

This is a slight topic change, but at SIPNOC for the last few years, FCC and FCC-connected people have come and talked about the plans for transitioning. My general sense is that the they're considering adding something like an IP address to the NPAC data structure.

There's a new IETF working group, "Modern":
> This list is for discussion of systems required to support the management 
> of telephone numbers after traditional telephone functions have migrated to 
> the Internet. In particular, this list considers Internet protocol 
> interfaces needed to register, provision and audit data related to 
> telephone numbers. It is expected that discussion will also involve ongoing 
> development of experimental systems to implement these functions.

A big thrust there is to develop Internet protocols to talk to all the old-school telecom systems that have kept us going through the 1980s-present. 

They're also talking a lot there about who "owns" telephone numbers.

Here are some good introductory  slides from the IETF meeting in March: 

> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:46 , Pete Eisengrein <peeip989 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not us.
> Is this topic interesting enough to everyone to try and formalize and develop? (i.e. take it off the email list and do something more)? Maybe meet up at SIPNOC? (though that's 1/2 year away). We'd be happy to host something (say, a two-day meeting) here sooner, if there's interest.
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Erik Flournoy <erik at eespro.com <mailto:erik at eespro.com>> wrote:
> Can I get a count of how many folks have SPID? There is a process that some major carriers that were once small used to do exactly what we are describing. The routing issues happen all the time even if it's not a reseller amongst CLECs, ILEC everyday even when NPAC says the number goes to xyz the ILEC ultimately controls 75% of where the call goes on the tandem.
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Peter E <peeip989 at gmail.com <mailto:peeip989 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Well, I think that's where Mark's Bitcoin-ish idea comes in. I'm sure he can explain it better than I can.
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 00:35, Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com <mailto:beckman at angryox.com>> wrote:
> Reseller C and the end user knows where the chain ends, but how do WE know
> that reseller C and end-user are honest?
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