[VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline

[Joshua Elson]

Google itself also blocks traffic pumpers on Google Voice, though they've
long argued they shouldn't be subject to regulation as a carrier:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/voice/pmkQ58_HEfo

I understand where you're coming from David, but these services are total
scams taking advantage of small carriers desire to increase revenue and
consumers lack of understanding about how these services operate and are
paid for.  Anyone being honest about this can't possibly argue that these
aren't a dishonest form of cost shifting onto providers like me.  I've not
gone to the lengths of a provider like Speakeasy, but I understand where
they're coming from.  This kind of calling is a measurable impact on
revenue in a competitive market.  At wholesale, it's often a great deal
cheaper for me to have customers calling China than it is virtually all of
these kinds of services.  It's not at all fair - to anyone involved - to
burden an intermediary, much less one that's significantly encumbered by
regulation, with this cost.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, David Thompson <dthompson at esi-estech.com>
wrote:

> Those are the providers you need to avoid. If they can't understand that
> in business you win some and you lose some hopefully at the end of the
> quarter you come out on top then they are probably already walking a thin
> line between profitability and losing money. In which case you may find
> yourself one morning without any dial tone and stuck in a nightmare that
> may take months to repair as you try and port your numbers out.
>
> David Thompson
> Network Services Support Technician
> (O) 858.357.8794
> (F) 858-225-1882
> (E) dthompson at esi-estech.com
> (W) www.esi-estech.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Seelye
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 3:18 PM
> To: voiceops at voiceops.org
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline
>
> Look at the speakeasy link.  They're willfully and publicly declining to
> terminate traffic to certain NPA-NXXs.
>
> -Aaron
>
> On 5/6/2015 7:22 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> > What do you mean? Did you mean to say list? What list?
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com
> > <mailto:frnkblk at iname.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Ouch.  Several of our CLEC NPA-NXX'es on that last.  Checking with
> >     legal.
> >
> >     Frank
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org
> >     <mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>] On Behalf Of Jay
> >     Hennigan
> >     Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:08 PM
> >     To: voiceops at voiceops.org <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
> >     Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline
> >
> >     On 5/4/15 1:29 PM, David Thompson wrote:
> >      > Finally someone's taking a stand about this. Unacceptable in 2015
> in
> >      > America that you cannot call coast to coast and expect the call
> to be
> >      > connected.
> >
> >     Some people just say no. I suspect that this isn't exactly legal.
> >
> >     http://www.speakeasy.net/tos/blocked.php
> >
> >     --
> >     Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net
> >     <mailto:jay at impulse.net>
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