[VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline

[Victor Diloreto]

Regarding the reference to the Speakeasy link - thank you for bringing this page to our attention. Please be advised that Speakeasy was acquired by MegaPath in 2010. MegaPath does not block rural calls. The link you have referenced is outdated and inaccurate. We are removing that page from the legacy site. We apologize for any confusion. Please refer to www.megapath.com<http://www.megapath.com> or our customer portal, http://my.megapath.com for current product descriptions.



Cheers,

Vic Diloreto
Director Network Engineering
MegaPath

From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Elson
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 4:42 PM
To: David Thompson
Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline

Google itself also blocks traffic pumpers on Google Voice, though they've long argued they shouldn't be subject to regulation as a carrier:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/voice/pmkQ58_HEfo

I understand where you're coming from David, but these services are total scams taking advantage of small carriers desire to increase revenue and consumers lack of understanding about how these services operate and are paid for.  Anyone being honest about this can't possibly argue that these aren't a dishonest form of cost shifting onto providers like me.  I've not gone to the lengths of a provider like Speakeasy, but I understand where they're coming from.  This kind of calling is a measurable impact on revenue in a competitive market.  At wholesale, it's often a great deal cheaper for me to have customers calling China than it is virtually all of these kinds of services.  It's not at all fair - to anyone involved - to burden an intermediary, much less one that's significantly encumbered by regulation, with this cost.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:29 PM, David Thompson <dthompson at esi-estech.com<mailto:dthompson at esi-estech.com>> wrote:
Those are the providers you need to avoid. If they can't understand that
in business you win some and you lose some hopefully at the end of the
quarter you come out on top then they are probably already walking a thin
line between profitability and losing money. In which case you may find
yourself one morning without any dial tone and stuck in a nightmare that
may take months to repair as you try and port your numbers out.

David Thompson
Network Services Support Technician
(O) 858.357.8794<tel:858.357.8794>
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From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>] On Behalf Of Aaron
Seelye
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 3:18 PM
To: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline

Look at the speakeasy link.  They're willfully and publicly declining to
terminate traffic to certain NPA-NXXs.

-Aaron

On 5/6/2015 7:22 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> What do you mean? Did you mean to say list? What list?
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk at iname.com<mailto:frnkblk at iname.com>
> <mailto:frnkblk at iname.com<mailto:frnkblk at iname.com>>> wrote:
>
>     Ouch.  Several of our CLEC NPA-NXX'es on that last.  Checking with
>     legal.
>
>     Frank
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>
>     <mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org>>] On Behalf Of Jay
>     Hennigan
>     Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:08 PM
>     To: voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org> <mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org<mailto:voiceops at voiceops.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Rural call completion hotline
>
>     On 5/4/15 1:29 PM, David Thompson wrote:
>      > Finally someone's taking a stand about this. Unacceptable in 2015
in
>      > America that you cannot call coast to coast and expect the call
to be
>      > connected.
>
>     Some people just say no. I suspect that this isn't exactly legal.
>
>     http://www.speakeasy.net/tos/blocked.php
>
>     --
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